70s in BfA

Tzartwink said:
With the item squish coming is there anyone with a thunderfury that can see if it’s worth using as a tanking weapon in pvp for BFA?
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I have thunderfury and it's nothing really to write home for I'm afraid. You still lose way too many stats for what it does. Sorry :/
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Blackberryy said:
so it seems the vendor gems have not been nerfed much or at all but crafted took a hit. The metas from bashir landings are also close to unchanged, as well along with a few other vendor gems
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Interesting. Must look further into this!

And after further research, it doesn't seem to be the case for all of them.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=30598/don-amancios-heart Live
http://bfa.wowhead.com/item=30598/don-amancios-heart BfA
 
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Shinela said:
I have thunderfury and it's nothing really to write home for I'm afraid. You still lose way too many stats for what it does. Sorry :/
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Interesting. Must look further into this!

And after further research, it doesn't seem to be the case for all of them.
http://www.wowhead.com/item=30598/don-amancios-heart Live
http://bfa.wowhead.com/item=30598/don-amancios-heart BfA
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Yeah some got nerfed some are barely nerfed and some are unchanged
 
@Blackberryy @Zoke @Chey @Awze
Ok so you guys have the patch a day before us. Here are some things I'm really curious about:
Stat templates in instanced PvP; do we get the same "adjustable template" system that maxlevels are getting where you can change the distribution of your stats but not the amounts? Or are your stats exactly the same as outside of instanced pvp like before legion? Or do we still have static templates like in legion?

Is ilvl still a thing in instanced pve?

What are your general impressions of the level 70 class balance? Any classes really standing out as really good or bad?

Thanks!
 
Dreams said:
@Blackberryy @Zoke @Chey @Awze
Ok so you guys have the patch a day before us. Here are some things I'm really curious about:
Stat templates in instanced PvP; do we get the same "adjustable template" system that maxlevels are getting where you can change the distribution of your stats but not the amounts? Or are your stats exactly the same as outside of instanced pvp like before legion? Or do we still have static templates like in legion?

Is ilvl still a thing in instanced pve?

What are your general impressions of the level 70 class balance? Any classes really standing out as really good or bad?

Thanks!
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At the moment everything seems balenced for the most part, we can gain honor levels etc as well which is super cool. Trying to get an arena to pop atm, assuming most are playing on there 110s though so will be having to wait for more 70s to get off work. Will also get back to you later after some heroics etc. also one interesting thing, they modified the difference between pvp and level, we no longer beat up on 110s but we can deal damage, we do not miss and i almost beat a fully geared 110 pally in a duel on my 70 rogue, i love this feature personally and am glad to see that it did not go entirely
 
Dreams said:
Been playing for a while now with no issues.
@Blackberryy I've answered all of the questions myself
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Nice! I tried to play this morning but my Realm, stormrage has some serious world latency issues. I did like what I saw
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Tzartwink said:
Nice! I tried to play this morning but my Realm, stormrage has some serious world latency issues. I did like what I saw though. I cannot wait to do a battleground tonight
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Chey said:
Interesting bug(?) with raids and war mode if you don't have it selected, you will not zone into the same raid as those that do have it on.
Potential issue for pure pve twinks wanting to join our raids.

Although I imagine most twinks will have war mode on.
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I noticed that too. I could not see a nom war mode party member in the open world. However when we zoned into molten core I could see him
 
Chey said:
Interesting bug(?) with raids and war mode if you don't have it selected, you will not zone into the same raid as those that do have it on.
Potential issue for pure pve twinks wanting to join our raids.

Although I imagine most twinks will have war mode on.
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When we did our raid, we didn't have this issue. Maybe all of us had warmode on, which would surprise me but it is possible. Can easily test this though when I'm home :p
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I would now advice using the other ones offered by our PvP vendor if you like crit:
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If you don't like crit, there's probably some others out there that give haste or maybe vers. I'll update in a minute.
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Hmm I was running X-server friend so maybe that's why, or maybe just bugged for us?

Anyway awesome work as always with testing and discovery. I feel to some degree we are almost still in beta stage with a lot of changes and hot fixs to still come. Hope you can keep on top of it all [emoji12]

Noticed band of eternal champion is proccing and gives me buff, but when I check my stats gives me zero extra agility or attack power. Have not checked the other versions.

"sorry not exact numbers" I will start writing shit down*
Melee meta says 300 haste proc = actually 450ish
Ring of Edward the odd say 37 haste proc = actually 53

Basically tool tips and buffs are not the actual stat increase, some are but most are not. Will try log as much as I can for legit numbers.
 
Chey said:
Basically tool tips and buffs are not the actual stat increase
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I know, but there's so many that I feel silly to try and keep a list :(

Chey said:
Melee meta says 300 haste proc = actually 450ish
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I had the number for this but for some reason it overwrote them in my enchant list xD Rewriting that part now. Anyway I tested them, and literally did again just now to be certain: 308 haste is what I get, and I checked by the actual stat pane :p

Chey said:
Noticed band of eternal champion is proccing and gives me buff, but when I check my stats gives me zero extra agility or attack power. Have not checked the other versions.
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Melee one doesn't give stats and Healer one doesn't either. Caster DPS one does, Tank one does too
 
I think for scaling procs you will need to track multiple numbers because a proc at 70 will be different than at 79 scaled up in BG.
 
Lightfall said:
I think for scaling procs you will need to track multiple numbers because a proc at 70 will be different than at 79 scaled up in BG.
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Why do you have to ruin everything? :p
Now I have to enter BG's too to test things. Aaaaaaawwww :( lol
 
Chey said:
yeh sorry @Shinela I have been testing on feral and it gets a haste percentage multiplier that obviously works with procs hence my increased results
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Happens :) At least you found out why you got a higher number in the end! ^.^
 
I did brief testing with resilience this morning in open world via duel. While brief I can confirm I did see a decent difference in how hard I got hit. I’ll have more to come on this but might be worth investigating further
 
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