3s ARENA TOURNAMENT RULES! I WANT TO HEAR YOUR OPINION!

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ive never really been that good at arena cause i can never seem to find the cap spot let alone the ally flag . >.< but anyways i dont think that there should be any bans at all on gear.

classes on the other hand it would be kindah lame to see 3 prot pallies 1 shotting entire teams . i really cant think of any solution to that.
 
supportabro said:
This will be a long post but I have a lot to say.

First, the most obvious - ban AGM. This SHOULD stay here as is. There's a reason Earl and a lot of other Alliance have AGM's. It's because (NOT BECAUSE YOU WORKED HARD) they are Alliance. Back in the day AP was a huge, and still is, Alliance server. Nearly every Alliance twink that tried for AGM has one. Nearly every Horde one does not. You want to talk about effort? Horde characters take a hell of a lot more effort in most cases. You have to get a fishing hat. You have to get AGM against 85s that were mostly Alliance. CRZ changed some of that in that there are now more 90s, but all that changed is now no one gets an AGM. There's a reason some of the most dedicated twinkers in the game don't have AGM Horde side. We're talking about people who farmed 3/3 bracers dedicated. I'm not expecting that to full convince you, so lets talk about why AGM is going to be huge for actual gameplay. AGM is groundbreaking. It means that you get a bubble UNLESS the other team has a shaman. That's essentially going to force every team that doesn't have an AGM to go w/ a shaman to counter that. That's terrible for gameplay because most teams are going to become Prot/Hunter/RSham instead of just Prot/Hunter/X.
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Get at me. I got that agm with the help of 1 other f2p, and the last 2 or 3 trinkets with help from some p2p friends.


And cotus, get real bro. The AGM bubble is no better than a priest bubble, or a flash heal. It gets burnt down in like 2 seconds, and has a 15 min CD. It's not nearly as good as everyone makes it out to be. Which, is exactly the reason I'm advocating for it. I mean honestly, if you think it's THAT good, why not get one? It's not hard.
 
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Earlwing said:
Acéßull @ Aerie Peak - Community - World of Warcraft

Get at me. I got that agm with the help of 1 other f2p, and the last 2 or 3 trinkets with help from some p2p friends.


And cotus, get real bro. The AGM bubble is no better than a priest bubble, or a flash heal. It gets burnt down in like 2 seconds, and has a 15 min CD. It's not nearly as good as everyone makes it out to be. Which, is exactly the reason I'm advocating for it. I mean honestly, if you think it's THAT good, why not get one? It's not hard.
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Sorry Jerry but you're so wrong. AGM is the only item where getting it depends almost entirely on other players (especially if you weren't a cata hunter/prot paladin l0l) unlike Drakewing Bands, Magician's Mantle, or Lucky Fishing Hat.

If you think such a game changing item should be allowed than you're just silly. You sound like ghostcrawler on his twitter saying that 5 stack taste for blood is so rare that it's okay if warriors can occasionally one shot someone because it hardly ever happens. What a joke. If you allow AGM in this tourney I personally would be surprised if anyone takes this seriously.
 
BB/Trollin said:

*Maximum Class Limit Of (1) Per Team.

*Maxium Healing Spec Limit of (1) Per Team.

*Protection Paladins can only participate if a Spriest, Boomkin/Guardian and Elemental/Enhance Shaman is on the team.

*Teams can't have a main spec healer if a Protection Paladin is on the team.

*Protection Paladins and Rogues cannot be on the same team.

*Ferals are BANNED.
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Shft said:
Sorry Jerry but you're so wrong. AGM is the only item where getting it depends almost entirely on other players (especially if you weren't a cata hunter/prot paladin l0l) unlike Drakewing Bands, Magician's Mantle, or Lucky Fishing Hat.

If you think such a game changing item should be allowed than you're just silly. You sound like ghostcrawler on his twitter saying that 5 stack taste for blood is so rare that it's okay if warriors can occasionally one shot someone because it hardly ever happens. What a joke. If you allow AGM in this tourney I personally would be surprised if anyone takes this seriously.
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It's not game changing. Bro.
 
lol I say if someone wants to roll a spriest, let them :p

They dont have the same mana regain as a disc, they'll oom out trying to heal like a disc. and their trash DPS is funny to watch ^^
Oh but it could get crazy like...Spriest, Prot Paladin, Rshaman :O Double dispell, double silence, fear, stun, prot dps+survival. idk LOL


As far as AGMS go, I say EQUIP YES. USE NO.




I think limiting each team up to only 2 Classes with healing specs should be allowed. IE: Prot/Disc. Boomkin/Rsham. etc etc.


If things get really crazy, you could always restrict DPS classes to only DPS, and no healing allowed. However I personally think that's a bit ridiculous to do =P
 
supportabro said:
I know you're trying to limit the rules but SPriest/Prot/Hunter is more or less the same team as DPriest/Prot/Hunter!
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I don't know that I necessarily agree. No penance is huge. I don't really have a problem with that comp - healing too extensively would oom the off-healers and would necessitate they hit a strong combo in order to get a kill.

Also Earl, all due respect - AGM is a game changer. If you can use a shield on yourself similar to a PWS when your healer is CC'd, that's pretty fucking game changing.
 
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rsq said:
Also, how do you feel about pure DPS classes switching specs in between matches? Such as a mage switching between arcane and frost or a lock switching between aff and destro?
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I've been thinking about that. I might do something where they only have a limited amount of spec swaps they are allowed.

I see why you asked that of all people because you could play with your comp a bit.

<Hottie Dotties>

Salfir/Warlock/Aff(?)/AP
Çer/Druid/Balance/AP
Pandacide/Priest/Disc/AP


can turn into

Spriest
Resto
Destro
 
Mrcer said:
I think limiting each team up to only 2 Classes with healing specs should be allowed. IE: Prot/Disc. Boomkin/Rsham. etc etc.
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BB/Trollin said:
When you say make restrictions on classes not bans what do you have in mind? Taking the ability to have them off heal?
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If things get really crazy, you could always restrict DPS classes to only DPS, and no healing allowed. However I personally think that's a bit ridiculous to do =P
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Lillhunter said:
1 healer-Dpriest/Hpriest/Rshammy/Rdruid/Hpal

1 that can offheal-Prot/Ret/Balance/Guardian/Enh
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1 that can only heal themselves- Spriests/Ele (Bubble counts as a heal imo)

1 that can't heal at all- Hunts, Locks, Mages, Warriors, Rogues, Feral
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Cer seemed to say what I said kind of as well as a couple other people.

I think each team should be allowed ONE healer specced person.
I think each team should be allowed ONE class that can offheal- Prot/Ret Pal, Bdruid, Gdruid, Enh Shammy (Yes prots maybe OP but not because of healing.. They oom after 3 casts

OR they can choose a spriest or ele that can ONLY heal themselves. If the spriest or ele heals their dps or main healer they are DQ'd. Ele shammy is just as good as Rshammy and won't oom and spriest has bubbles which count almost as a heal imo.

I think each team should be allowed ONE class that can't heal anytime- Hunts, Locks, Mages, Warriors, Rogues, Feral (Think Feral should be allowed but can't use rejuv ever. Strictly a dps class)

There seemed to be a couple other people with this mindset and this is just how I see it. Even if you ban prots and ferals you know every comp will just be the next OP comp. Mine as well let every class be able to play just limit their available comps. Also please let agms be used :p I just want earl to come back and play so we can win.. Earl come back and play and show them even without AGM you're still world #1 :))
 
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AGM isn't banned as of right now. I'd appreciate it if any comments towards AGM are in the right thread. Earl, I know of a few people that'd like to see you in the tournament including I.

I think rules are pretty solid as of right now Lil. Considering banning GFed gear though, but yet again.. its just a thought.
 
rsq said:
I don't know that I necessarily agree. No PWS or penance is huge. I don't really have a problem with that comp - healing too extensively would oom the off-healers and would necessitate they hit a strong combo in order to get a kill.

Also Earl, all due respect - AGM is a game changer. If you can use a shield on yourself similar to a PWS when your healer is CC'd, that's pretty fucking game changing.
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Yeah AGM is broken. There's only been one person so far for it, and he's not even playing. And if it's AGM that's the only thing keeping him from playing, that's got to make you wonder why. Also, SPriests don't get Shield? I didn't know that.
 
BB/Trollin said:
I think rules are pretty solid as of right now Lil. Considering banning GFed gear though, but yet again.. its just a thought.
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I just saw this thread first person I saw the official changes.. I like the idea that prots can only be used with healers that arent specced healing however I would consider ele and spriests as healers. Ele healing can be just as good as resto and spriests have bubbles as well as a heavy heal. I think <don't los me bro> comp shouldn't be allowed (sry reflexz and oni :/) because that is basically 2 healers
 
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