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Megumi
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Other than your opinion, where's your proof that this is the only reason games stopped? I'm not blaming only hunters, there is a list of reasons why a lot of people moved on and gave up playing their 29s. Here's some that I can think of:
-One sided battles
-Turtling after one flag capture
-Not assigning players to sit
-Killing people who were sitting
-Lack of proper group composition (i.e. no heals/FC)
-No leader
-Lack of teamwork
-Lack of healers/dispels
-Lack of communication
-Refusal to get on vent
-Refusal to play objectively
-Refusal to create a twink on both sides
-Refusal to queue on a different class when there was more than 2 hunts
-Adding more game nights
-AFKing from game when not winning
-Not helping new players
-Not recruiting new players
-Kicking new players for being under geared
-Arguing while in battleground (It was mostly between Kowdasian)
-Refusal to heal players
-Harassing players based on their skill
Hunters are not banned for when we do revive the bracket and we are not discouraging them or asking them to play a certain spec.
Also, please don't assume things, as I didn't move on to play 70s or 19s. I went to play my main which is a lot more fun than either of those brackets.
Thee_Minowaman
Guest
saxxor tinke!
Ohai
OG
I don't think there even is an argument here. ~3/4ths of the players I talked to before I quit asked if "games were always this one sided" or "does the alliance really run with this many hunters all the time?". Everyone I've talked to after it ended... had a bad taste in their mouth from one sided games and shit that went on.
I wasn't having fun, I stopped playing. It appears my opinion of the state of the bracket wasn't too far off from the truth, because everyone else quit too.
I'm content to never see 29s come back if they were as garbage as they were for that last few weeks. The fact we felt the need to group queue to stand a chance, kick players to stand a chance, and that we still got smashed means that we obviously weren't good enough or something... but it really boiled down to "This isn't fun."
With all of this said, WoW has pretty much run its course, and the new expansion looks horrible. I seriously doubt that I'll play again
I wasn't having fun, I stopped playing. It appears my opinion of the state of the bracket wasn't too far off from the truth, because everyone else quit too.
I'm content to never see 29s come back if they were as garbage as they were for that last few weeks. The fact we felt the need to group queue to stand a chance, kick players to stand a chance, and that we still got smashed means that we obviously weren't good enough or something... but it really boiled down to "This isn't fun."
With all of this said, WoW has pretty much run its course, and the new expansion looks horrible. I seriously doubt that I'll play again
Megumi
OG
I don't think there even is an argument here. ~3/4ths of the players I talked to before I quit asked if "games were always this one sided" or "does the alliance really run with this many hunters all the time?". Everyone I've talked to after it ended... had a bad taste in their mouth from one sided games and shit that went on.
I wasn't having fun, I stopped playing. It appears my opinion of the state of the bracket wasn't too far off from the truth, because everyone else quit too.
I'm content to never see 29s come back if they were as garbage as they were for that last few weeks. The fact we felt the need to group queue to stand a chance, kick players to stand a chance, and that we still got smashed means that we obviously weren't good enough or something... but it really boiled down to "This isn't fun."
With all of this said, WoW has pretty much run its course, and the new expansion looks horrible. I seriously doubt that I'll play again
Well, we're starting over and we almost had games Thursday. We'll try again next week if you still have your subscription.
Ohai
OG
Megumi
OG
Are you suggesting that lower levels are imbalanced? We all know that lower levels are perfectly fined tuned to give every class a chance. That's why games are filled with Warlocks!
GigzXx
Legend
Sorry in advance for the long post.
All of what you said exists in every single other bracket in both XP on and XP off. Those brackets are doing just fine. I find it humorous that you think this bracket is somehow supposed to be an exception and be completely free of those things, when no other brackets are.
Just like anything in life, bitching is a negative thing that turns people off. If I go someplace with a friend or my family, and the person serving me decides he/she wants to vent about work and life problems, do you think I am going to be likely to tip well or even return to that place again? MOST PEOPLE (if not, all) want to be around happy positive people who make the best of things, even when they are bad. Those kinds of people are not only incredible to be around, but they are inspiring.
From the few games I caught in this bracket over the last 10 months or so, as well as the forum activity both here and the official forums, I can already tell that a lot of you aren't even slightly interested in being happy positive people. Certainly not interested in being incredible or inspiring. Every step of the way it's one or twp people pointing out their personal opinion of the bracket, convinced that the one or two other people who agree with them gives good cause to preach to the majority about such things.
I don't think anyone wants to be preached to. For every one or two people who cite their displeasure of the quality of games, how many do you think left without saying a word because they didn't want to deal with those people who felt inclined to frequently cite their displeasure about the quality of games?
It sure doesn't appear like it. Games haven't even started again yet and the forums are already littered with drama. Not surprising in the least.
GigzXx
Legend
I don't think having a massive population has anything to do with it. If hunters, rogues, mages, and the like were really the problem that 29s made them out to be, those other brackets would be non existent as well, despite the perceived 'ease of access.'
I think players in those brackets would rather just not bitch and whine about everything all the time because it tends to ruin the quality of games. I mean seriously, having random people jump up into your vent channel to rage at you can only be amusing for so long...
I think players in those brackets would rather just not bitch and whine about everything all the time because it tends to ruin the quality of games. I mean seriously, having random people jump up into your vent channel to rage at you can only be amusing for so long...
Fcftw
ftl
Donteventrii
OG
I remember this. The first 3-4 months after we started up in March. But then Ryan came back and Alliance had Lrig, Phat, Pizza as well as a host of fantastic DetoX OGs. Bracket became supersrs. Same thing happened when MB was rolling heads.
Kirise
OG
This is dead on. I don't mean to downplay the OPness of certain classes, but the complaining by far killed the bracket, and keeps it dead to this day.
19s ran into this problem last year. While I never played in that bracket, I was shocked to find out they were struggling to get games, and the number one reason cited in the forums and on the front page of this site was how horrible players treated each other. Noob this, baddie that, crutcher over there. The 19 bracket was never known for a carebear nature by any stretch of the imagination, but even they sunk under the weight of their own vitriol. If a "massive" bracket like 19s can troll itself out of existence for awhile, then yes, I think GigzXx is spot-on when he says the complaining needs to stop.
Veterans of the 29 bracket, and I say this as one of them, need to get over the fact that merging battlegroups fundamentally changed the way the bracket plays. Reckoning had the privilege of a tight community that could guide standards of play, and Reckoning 29s made the most of that opportunity, more than any other bracket before or since. We no longer have that. We're back to the way most brackets work, and frankly we'll be lucky if we keep free action potions and other goodies away from PuG battlegrounds when the bracket rematerializes. We got greater access to the bracket in trade for lower community standards. Let's accept it and move on.
My point is, it doesn't matter if people are right about certain classes being OP. That's hard to hear, but take it in. It doesn't matter if you're right about certain classes being OP. The 29s bracket from last year in which you want to play, is gone. In every sense of the term. We need to get over it and move forward with the normalization of our bracket. For those of us who cannot do this, I recommend waiting until something as drastic as 5.0 occurs in WoW.
I'll always remember and respect the XP-off dark ages of 29s -- one of the greatest success stories in all of twinking. It's time to move on.