(19s) 8.1.5 Enchants & Item Changes

[necroaqua]

I'm just gonna break it to you all. Ele force is still very good btw. Damage is still high, healing is roughly the same. The main concerns I have are the new races and how they play out. Recently we've been able to race change into allied races our 19's on live. And Zandalari Troll is completely fucked. As in absolutely mega broken.

A mistweaver with the healing proc of gift of the loa can proc 900+, consecutive times btw. Mistweavers heal incredibly fast over a lot of numbers. EACH and ONE of those can proc the racial. It's insanely broken. The restoration racial is crazy. 25% a second? Like wtf? The proc where you take damage that gives 600 health and 103 armor? Wtf? Meanwhile the bleed is trash, so there's that. Haven't tested the life steal proc yet. Tooltip says 144, but tooltip on bleed was good too, but it rarely procs and the tics are like 38 damage. I've only ever gotten it to stack twice of the 3 times it's allowed to stack. And that's pure PvE, non moving target. If the glider racial works in a wargame, that's also gonna be omegalul.

However, it's all early PTR, so I expect a lot of things to happen with the new allied races before they are finalized.

Majority of the dps should still stick with ele force (especially if you're a multi dotter). Healers have a few options depending on class and how they wish to utilize their class.

For the rogues who do have the liberty of weapon swapping, I believe that you'd mainly want ele force unless you're looking to open on a high stack FC. I believe double dancing steel might be better for that, but it's hard to say this early and without the proper testing. I can however say for sure that ele force isn't as bad as everyone puts it out to be. It's still very good.

"Ele force is nerfed though". Sure, and you'll have a little less damage, but still a lot.

I believe the latest round of ptr patch notes were tweaking the troll racial numbers. So highly unlikely that it goes in stupid strong as it is now.

Yeah, ele force is still going to be strong for a lot of things. Going from stupid OP to good. We might see healers shy away from it and switch to +9SP. Coastal surge also got nerfed, but something like FC resto druid is going to like it for that extra self-healing. And other healers still might want to extra HoT. I can see ele force still being useful for healers with a dot (priest/druid/shaman) as it will still be a lot of damage for a single GCD. Monk/Pally I can see switching away from it.

Feral might like to weapon swap. Use ele force when dotting/bleeding and switch to 12agi for the finisher. For all 3 of the feral druids out there.

Survival hunter will be the most interesting. 12agi might be the preferable 2h weapon enchant. Dual wielding will obviously see a nerf as its based a lot on double ele force, but we'll have to see if its still viable.

Multi-dotters may actually want to look at PPM options. For boomkins and affliction who can spam a lot of dots on a lot of people, something PPM could proc a lot more. Single target dotting you would prefer ele force. But if you're dotting 5 people up, its the same 10 RPPM for ele force. Will need some testing to see if something can proc enough (with a good enough buff) to compare.

 

[SPQR]

Having scaled bop in void storage effecting the retroactive scaling in any way while copying to ptr?

 

[Purj]

Having scaled bop in void storage effecting the retroactive scaling in any way while copying to ptr?

I'll be on in an hour to test. Good thought

 

[Chops]

Having scaled bop in void storage effecting the retroactive scaling in any way while copying to ptr?

Admittedly a small sample size but my stuff in void storage scaled the same as my equipped gear and my gear in my bank

 

[Frogturtle]

4 those of you who rely on frag belt I heard maple story is a pretty sick alternative to wow Bv)

 

[Purj]

4 those of you who rely on frag belt I heard maple story is a pretty sick alternative to wow Bv)

Frag belt damage nerfed to about 150-250 damage depending on Vers.

 

[Merlin]

can anyone bring a Black Widow band into ptr and see if there are any changes ? its a green item, so technically even if it doesnt change, relative to the new items, would this no longer be the BIS for intel users ?

 

[FrozenWill]

can anyone bring a Black Widow band into ptr and see if there are any changes ? its a green item, so technically even if it doesnt change, relative to the new items, would this no longer be the BIS for intel users ?

just checked, same stats 10 intellect 24 ilvl

 

[Merlin]

just checked, same stats 10 intellect 24 ilvl

any rings will surpass BWB with the new ilvl boost ?

 

[Tom Ganks]

any rings will surpass BWB with the new ilvl boost ?

unlikely

 

[FrozenWill]

any rings will surpass BWB with the new ilvl boost ?

From what I’ve seen in my armory with bg blue rings, dungeon rings, boa etc nothing seems to be better than it still

 

[Ibe]

Have anyone been able to check if bg crate blues scale up?

 

[Knightfall]

Gonna miss those primary stats with the reduction on some of the major essential enchants.

 

[Purj]

Have anyone been able to check if bg crate blues scale up?

They don't. Still ilvl 25.

 

[Yayo]

They don't. Still ilvl 25.

The rings on my 29 were buffed on ptr, is that not the case at 19?

 

[Lateraldrop]

Purj do you mind checking colossus enchant?

 

[Vor]

Frag belt damage nerfed to about 150-250 damage depending on Vers.

Nice to hear.
Can you please check arcane bomb? Still 5s silence and ~700mp drain?

 

[Purj]

The rings on my 29 were buffed on ptr, is that not the case at 19?

Last I checked, no changes on any pieces including my rings.

Purj do you mind checking colossus enchant?

Nice to hear.
Can you please check arcane bomb? Still 5s silence and ~700mp drain?

I may have some time tomorrow to check on these.

 

[Pitter]

Mad respect for Purj twink.

 

[Lateraldrop]

Ty purj, your a treasure.