Come test 29 twinks stuff right now!

[raziel83]

Will want to check back when 6.0 actually comes out. Still some enchants that haven't been scaled down yet. Need more numbers to make a decision.

Pretty much this. Although on the small possibility that blizzard is done since no enchants have changed for a little while now....

This is my boomy geared / chanted for beta (might change tomorrow, who knows)
Derpkin @ Mal'Ganis - Community - World of Warcraft

Weapon; sunfire is still giving +38 arcane. Got some 2.3 k starsurges / 1900 starfire using sunfire on beta. Healing power was nerfed to +16 sp.

Chest; Peerless stats is actually giving me +7 all stats atm. Although the tooltip says +3? in my backpack, my stats actually improve by 7 when equipped.

boots; My beta boomkin has 135% speed, 175% in travelform. So OP for kiting / escaping. AB boots got buffed from 8% to 10% speed. Boar's speed also buffed to 10% and it STACKS now. I don't mind sacrificing a little int for crazy speed.

gloves; healing power reduced from +16 to +7. Major spell power reduced from +15 to +8.

cloak; pvp power is +6 and the int / haste / crit enchants are all +4. Not sure what's better atm. Not sure if pvp power scales the same as live.

bracer; healing power is +8 sp.

offhand; major int is +3 whereas superior int is now +2.

edit; Glyph of entangling roots now reduces the cast time by 0.5 (was 0.2?). It's also one of three glyph automatically learned now. Anyways I now have just over a 1 second cast time on roots. 1 second cast roots then straight into a solar beam is pretty nice.

 

[raziel83]

I failed and couldn't solo Thermaplugg.

Did you try brewmaster?

After watching your vid I decided to try my BM. @ 532 AP (336 bonus armor, minor defense elixir & lesser agil elixir) I soloed thermaplugg without casting a single surging mist. Just fort brew / guard and expel harm were enough.

I'm sure you know how broken BM is atm but for everyone else...

Tooltip white dmg (mainhand) 626-655. My MH white hits were critting thermaplug for 800 or so after armor mitigation.

Tooltip kegsmash damage 2343 - 2511. lol. Expect 4 k crits on cloth wearers.

Gillivey @ Mal'Ganis - Community - World of Warcraft

edit; You guys probably know this but anyways....icebreaker (60-80 dmg or so) DOES proc off dizzying haze. And if you have elemental force in your off hand, EF will proc off IB dmg. I rounded up 10 mobs in rfc and killed them all using only dizzying haze spam lol. Might be a good weapon swap for when you're spamming DH on a mass of players in alterac valley.

 

[Basement]

6.0 PTR is up, this is what we've all been waiting for!

The character copies are not currently working (down for maintenance), but if you have old characters copied there already, they will be there when you log in (mine were).

I'm currently on my 29 boomy on Broxigar. A few things have changed:

No more Faerie Fire (doh).
No more instant Star Surge.
Eclipse has changed from a static buff to Arcane/Nature damage that shifts a fixed amount on each spell cast, to a buff that will start shifting on the first spell cast in combat and shift all the way from Moon to Sun (or vice versa), even if you aren't casting spells.
Starsurge now has 3 charges (30 sec recharge).
Shooting Stars refreshes a Starsurge charge.
Aquatic Form is gone


Still have:
Wrath
Starfire
Moonfire
Starsurge
Solar Beam
Rejuve
Healing Touch
Entangling Roots

Enchants are mostly the same, with exception to proc enchants. Power Torrent procs for 29 int, Jade Spirit procs for 21, Dancing Steel procs for 26. I haven't tested others yet, but leave your questions here and I'll test it if I can.

Base health @ 29 is 1272
Max health with my current gear is 4464, I can easily get more.
Stam appears to give 23 HP per 1 point. @ 29.
Damage numbers seem to be about the same, but crit chance is significantly lower. When I do crit, it's for a lot, especially with certain buffs up.
Healing numbers are also pretty high.
Mana to chest enchant probably irrelevant now, can't seem to OOM.

Character sheet stats rearranged to have more relevant data showing in some boxes.
Dodge/parry still present on low level items (not sure if they drop that way though).

Could I perhaps get a link to your 29 Boomy? Been wanting to know what's BiS (besides GF'd gear) because I'd like to start up a 29, thanks in advance.

Edit: Also, what would be better, a Prot Warrior or a Prot Paladin?

 

[willix]

Could I perhaps get a link to your 29 Boomy? Been wanting to know what's BiS (besides GF'd gear) because I'd like to start up a 29, thanks in advance.

Edit: Also, what would be better, a Prot Warrior or a Prot Paladin?

Really not sure between Prot War or Prot Paladin. I don't play either one, so it's difficult for me to know. There aren't many people testing low level stuff on the PTR when I get on, so it's kinda w/e atm.

Baeloro @ Ursin - Community - World of Warcraft is my boomkin (banned on live servers, but still on my PTR character list for some reason).

 

[Franchi]

Pretty much this. Although on the small possibility that blizzard is done since no enchants have changed for a little while now....

Wait and see, nothing more frustrating than chanting and re enchanting gear while we wait in flux for WOD.

Really not sure between Prot War or Prot Paladin. I don't play either one, so it's difficult for me to know. There aren't many people testing low level stuff on the PTR when I get on, so it's kinda w/e atm.

Baeloro @ Ursin - Community - World of Warcraft is my boomkin (banned on live servers, but still on my PTR character list for some reason).

How did you get banned on live servers? With the recent drop in subs I didn't think it was possible to get banned anymore.

 

[willix]

How did you get banned on live servers? With the recent drop in subs I didn't think it was possible to get banned anymore.

About six months ago I was trying to find new homes for some of my twinks. I ended up selling one to someone who then tried to get a name change the same day, which flagged the new account for investigation when it was still tied to my account. Blizzard refused to even discuss the situation with me, making it impossible to appeal. They even threatened to ban my Diablo account if I opened any more tickets about it.

I still have my F2P account and I had another 29 on a different Bnet account, so I didn't lose everything. Just most of everything. Since then, I've leveled two characters to 90, made several new twinks (mostly shamans) for each bracket.

 

[The Dark Carnival]

Hi... casual lurker here. Been trying to get into PTR myself ever since I heard of the possible 20-29 return. Dusted off my old warrior in the 29 with some of the potential wod gear-item stat change upcoming.

Hulkstr @ Moonrunner - Community - World of Warcraft

From what I could gather from ptr notes (sample item changes) that

hit -> crit (haste?)
dodge -> crit (or Bonus Armor from devs comments? Does not appear yet on the wod.wowhead.com)
Parry - > Mastery

The (comments) I found some sample items that showed dodge changed to crit, parry to mastery, but hit also went either haste/crit. So time will tell once those stats are removed as they said.

offhand notes: If I put back my old MoP chanted stuff stam-build puts me around 4300hp vs Str/Atp around 3200hp

Shield slam with stam (non-crit) 1000 -> w/Atp gear 1500ish -> with glyph shield slam proc adds another +500 - +750 dmg on top of prev stam-atp damage. LOL fun 2-3 shotting things Charge-stun > ShieldSlam > Execute ...skin skin skin

 

[Franchi]

About six months ago I was trying to find new homes for some of my twinks. I ended up selling one to someone who then tried to get a name change the same day, which flagged the new account for investigation when it was still tied to my account. Blizzard refused to even discuss the situation with me, making it impossible to appeal. They even threatened to ban my Diablo account if I opened any more tickets about it.

I still have my F2P account and I had another 29 on a different Bnet account, so I didn't lose everything. Just most of everything. Since then, I've leveled two characters to 90, made several new twinks (mostly shamans) for each bracket.

Well that sucks.

If only blizz banned bots as readily 90 bgs might actually be fun....

 

[raziel83]

Shield slam with stam (non-crit) 1000 -> w/Atp gear 1500ish -> with glyph shield slam proc adds another +500 - +750 dmg on top of prev stam-atp damage. LOL fun 2-3 shotting things Charge-stun > ShieldSlam > Execute ...skin skin skin

In full dps gear, shield slam hits for less than 200 on beta. + crits against players only do 150% now instead of 200%.

 

[thenetx]

boots; My beta boomkin has 135% speed, 175% in travelform. So OP for kiting / escaping. AB boots got buffed from 8% to 10% speed. Boar's speed also buffed to 10% and it STACKS now. I don't mind sacrificing a little int for crazy speed.

Wonder if cloak enchant stack as well?

 

[The Dark Carnival]

In full dps gear, shield slam hits for less than 200 on beta. + crits against players only do 150% now instead of 200%.

Considering the stat squish I think it is understandable. Now if only ptr is up, it has been down since I got back into wow this past august.

 

[willix]

Considering the stat squish I think it is understandable. Now if only ptr is up, it has been down since I got back into wow this past august.

It's been up most of the time for the last two years. The WoD PTR is the same as the MoP PTR. You just install the MoP client and presto, you are on the WoD PTR.

 

[Shaket]

Unfortunately the character copy feature (both in the client as well as website) has not functioned for myself for the past 2-3 months, and it "forgot" my old ptr copies (apparently it remembered other peoples old copies), so I haven't been able to test out WoD twinking, which bugs me as I would like some first-hand knowledge of where Arms & Fury will be in WoD. Currently, all the ptr realms are showing 'offline', for me at least.

 

[Laurasia]

Unfortunately the character copy feature (both in the client as well as website) has not functioned for myself for the past 2-3 months

Doesn't work for me either

 

[raziel83]

Bonus armor finally got nerfed. No crazy tank damage anymore. All bonus is now as the tooltip states. eg +5 to cloak, +3 to boots etc etc.

 

[tomxoqt]

Thanks for the update Raziel! I was gonna be very surprised if those crazy numbers got through into the lower levels.

 

[Pattern]

But SoT (shield of thorsen) will still be BiS shield due to the Bonus armor correct?

Edit: Hehe you were talking about the armor kits, my bad. My original question does still stand as to the values of the gear

 

[soskanky]

Unfortunately the character copy feature (both in the client as well as website) has not functioned for myself for the past 2-3 months, and it "forgot" my old ptr copies (apparently it remembered other peoples old copies), so I haven't been able to test out WoD twinking, which bugs me as I would like some first-hand knowledge of where Arms & Fury will be in WoD. Currently, all the ptr realms are showing 'offline', for me at least.

You do it from within the client not the website. Cheers

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[willix]

You do it from within the client not the website. Cheers

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I think they removed that feature from the client. 99% sure it's just not possible to copy a character right now. I have no idea when that will change, but it's definitely a concern of many right now. I got very lucky and was able to copy about a dozen characters during the window when the in-game copy feature was actually working. Now it's been replaced with a 'create character' button.

Thanks for the update Raziel! I was gonna be very surprised if those crazy numbers got through into the lower levels.

Tbh, I'm actually more surprised they fixed them before 6.0 went live. This is a game company who is notorious for bad low level game design. We sat through 6 months of rogues being able to global someone with ambush in Cata. Even after 'fixing' such insane damage, Rogues were still stupidly OP. To the point no one wanted to play with rogues, thus killing activity. It wasn't until MoP that Blizzard finally addressed OP rogues with base resilience, and even then, Prot Warriors became the new OP melee class.

We've sat through 2 years of OP prot warriors that are finally getting fixed in 6.0. So when it comes to Blizzard actually fixing something, it surprises me when they do it in less than two years from the date said problem is discovered.

Things I'm still wondering about:

- Elemental Force enchant still procs for 110 damage at all lower levels, making it unaffected by additional scaling. If this stays this way, I will probably be using it for all my toons (even casters) since a 110-220 dmg proc is better than +16 spellpower/int on weapon.

- Landslide still procs for 75 AP, also unaffected by additional scaling. While it offers the highest single proc for AP, it's also the least frequently proccing enchant imo.

There are probably other enchants I'm missing, but I haven't yet spent the time to test every single enchant and get the results onto a spreadsheet (with the additional scaling added for 6.0). I'm waiting until 6.0 since it seems like they aren't quite done changing them.

 

[raziel83]

Things I'm still wondering about:

- Elemental Force enchant still procs for 110 damage at all lower levels, making it unaffected by additional scaling. If this stays this way, I will probably be using it for all my toons (even casters) since a 110-220 dmg proc is better than +16 spellpower/int on weapon.

- Landslide still procs for 75 AP, also unaffected by additional scaling. While it offers the highest single proc for AP, it's also the least frequently proccing enchant imo.

There are probably other enchants I'm missing, but I haven't yet spent the time to test every single enchant and get the results onto a spreadsheet (with the additional scaling added for 6.0). I'm waiting until 6.0 since it seems like they aren't quite done changing them.

I think elemental force is fine for agility users. It lets them compete with the 'tier 1' specs. Tier 1 imo being spriest and boomkin.

EF for casters? Not so much. Currently soulfrost (+40 shad / frost dmg) and sunfire (+38 firce / arcane) are still working and still superior to EF. +16 spell power will still be useful for hybrids since it boosts your healing too.

At first I thought landlside was great but after a lot of testing.....it sucks. Yes it provides the highest burst for non-str users bit it has 1 proc per minute. Which is absolutely terrible. 75 attack power for 12 seconds once per minute. 60 seconds / 12 = 5. 75 / 5 = 15. So it equates to a static 15 AP. That does not factor in burst damage of course but elemental force is still better by miles. Plus how many times will it proc and you only get 1 second use out of it before you're kited / CC'd / LOS'd for the next 11 seconds? Or what if the proc is wasted verse a player's pet or totem / standard etc. Bad enchant imo.

Crusader is still 100 str + heal. I hope it stays this way because double crusader on a whirlwind spamming fury warrior is just so much fun. Fun without being OP imo. Spamming whirlwind (with glyph of WW +4 yards) is seeing at least one stack of crusader almost always being up against multiple targets.