How do you healers avoid getting blown up in midfield?
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Spriesta
Legend
Isn't trolling and harassment a bannable offense?
I'm new here, so I'm not entirely sure, but I've reported your post so a moderator can make sure we don't get out of hand.
On topic, I think another great way to not die as a healer is check your map. To be an effective healer, you want to make sure you are capable of healing the most amount of players. You also want to consider reinforcements. Instead of looking behind you, you can press M and see if there's anyone else heading your way. You could then move closer to where they're coming from to avoid being attacked.
Also, sticking to another person is truly a great way to avoid trouble. You by yourself = You're a target. You and ANY class (not just hunter) = possibly a target.
Dramatized
Legend
How is not agreeing with a person a bannable offense?
Waterworks
Moooderator
You're definitely new here. Also, it was in response to this:
Great advice, right? I think the response was more than justified. The mods for our bracket are more than capable of seeing past the crap that Saint spews, and they don't need people to mini-mod the site.
Waterworks
Moooderator
He moves in mysterious ways.
The Saint
I won't like you
if you want to heal mid farmers that's up to you, i don't.
yes, yes it is actually the best advice in this thread. while you're healing people who're not on the objective, the people who are, are dying.
also, there's a post from shane encouraging people to use the report button more, and i'd call what drama did troll baiting tbh. but i'm not a "mini-mod" so i dunno. been as you're telling someone not to do what the owner wants, you obviously are.
Spiriel
Legend
That rly was a dumb advice whoever gave it
From my personal perspective dont fucking stay! Move! If u stay, melees will hit u. Stop for flash heal only!
- (bad) Prot paladins throw their shield from distance - u run the other way. Don´t give them the opportunity of melee range.
- Rogues will usually try to get behind you! So just strafe around; run through them, circle them whatever.
- In AB u can jump over the fences (they are somewhere at every base) vs all melees..do this always..just jump back and forth and back and forth.
- tendrils > psyfiend
Another point: you can heal anyone of your team at distance for a reason - use that as advantage!
- get max possible distance btw you, your target and your targets target. Or else every dps with no healing option will use u as a meatshield!
- Hunters usually will attack u, if you attack them they try and run to max distance (mostly) - run the opposite way. Why chasing them? They are cowards, why should u be the hero?
And plx stop all with "i never ever heal no one in midfield" this is just nonsense...first everyone has some hybris! and second if midfights get you an advantage vs. the other team you use it (and if its just preventing a few dps from reaching your fc).
If you don´t then stop saying all others don´t focus on the goals - maybe you dont.
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Dramatized
Legend
if you want to heal mid farmers that's up to you, i don't.
yes, yes it is actually the best advice in this thread. while you're healing people who're not on the objective, the people who are, are dying.
also, there's a post from shane encouraging people to use the report button more, and i'd call what drama did troll baiting tbh. but i'm not a "mini-mod" so i dunno. been as you're telling someone not to do what the owner wants, you obviously are.
A hunters job is to take control of mid, and stop the enemies from passing. A hunter that slows/kills enemies in mid is playing objectively.
The Saint
I won't like you
no, the job is to defend and attack. you was one of the first to cry about it in 19s. remember that lil meeting you called me and reece to when we was doing it to the french? anyways do as you like, i always do.
Shapeshift
Legend
Okaaaaii... I like what Kibbies said but for recommendations, try to farm swiftness potion in Ragefirecasm - Alchemy - Then you can probably escape from those choas farming.
Dramatized
Legend
what? lmao what are you talking about? I've never called reece or you to a "meeting"?
A hunters job is to defend, you say? lol
Lil
SV huntard
I like you more then saint but I gotta say I agree with him. Healing people in mid does nothing but waste a good healer for O/D on mid derpers. Good healers shouldn't be in mid if there's an efc or fr in flag rooms.
Also hunt's have many jobs. Defending and killing efc>mid derping. I'd take someone with 5 solo efc kills over someone who stalls/kills people in mid while topping dmg anyday.
Outtlaw is one of the better hunts in this bracket and he used to be purely D. Hunter(s) on D are the best defenders and are better then rogues/stealthies and defending is definitely a good strat if there are smaller then 2 incs each time.
Spriesta
Legend
I will agree that there is SOME strat to be in mids, but it's NOT having the whole, or half of the, team there.
Whether it's a hunter, mage, shaman, lock or spriest, etc does not matter. However, I do agree that there are some classes that are better for mid / GY than others.
Think about it this way. Is it better to have your defense + a lock on defense? Or is it better to have a defense, offense and a spriest who can fear an incoming group? Some of them will trinket out. Some of them won't. Most of them are too dumb to wait for their feared buddies, so that spriest has effectively given a 10+ second delay (including fear / if they went the opposite way during it) on a few members. Basically, you're cutting down their forces and the defense's job is much easier than if fear was cast in the middle of the flag room.
It doesn't have to be a spriest. It could be a shaman with earthbind totems, or a rogue with sap, perhaps a lock with fear, hunter with traps, etc etc etc etc etc etc. You get the point.
Slowing down the other team in mids IS strat. But only if the other responsibilities are taken care of too - Aka offense and defense.
I also think that GY camping IS strat as well. Would you rather have it so when 5 people die, 5 people rez and join the fight? No. If one person GY camps they can realistically take out AT LEAST 1 (probably 2-3) player out of a rez'd group of 5. This means that for every 5 that rez, only about 3 actually come back. A 2 player advantage can be huge, especially if you're running the flag.
The only way it gets out of control is when it is excessive.
Now, there's this other thing too.
If you can successfully camp the GY with a couple players, then all you need to do is kill of the few remaining players and then add some more to the GY camp for each player you make rez. All of a sudden you are camping the GY (as long as insignias are pulled), and you can just continually grab flag until you're 3-0, win.
Whether it's a hunter, mage, shaman, lock or spriest, etc does not matter. However, I do agree that there are some classes that are better for mid / GY than others.
Think about it this way. Is it better to have your defense + a lock on defense? Or is it better to have a defense, offense and a spriest who can fear an incoming group? Some of them will trinket out. Some of them won't. Most of them are too dumb to wait for their feared buddies, so that spriest has effectively given a 10+ second delay (including fear / if they went the opposite way during it) on a few members. Basically, you're cutting down their forces and the defense's job is much easier than if fear was cast in the middle of the flag room.
It doesn't have to be a spriest. It could be a shaman with earthbind totems, or a rogue with sap, perhaps a lock with fear, hunter with traps, etc etc etc etc etc etc. You get the point.
Slowing down the other team in mids IS strat. But only if the other responsibilities are taken care of too - Aka offense and defense.
I also think that GY camping IS strat as well. Would you rather have it so when 5 people die, 5 people rez and join the fight? No. If one person GY camps they can realistically take out AT LEAST 1 (probably 2-3) player out of a rez'd group of 5. This means that for every 5 that rez, only about 3 actually come back. A 2 player advantage can be huge, especially if you're running the flag.
The only way it gets out of control is when it is excessive.
Now, there's this other thing too.
If you can successfully camp the GY with a couple players, then all you need to do is kill of the few remaining players and then add some more to the GY camp for each player you make rez. All of a sudden you are camping the GY (as long as insignias are pulled), and you can just continually grab flag until you're 3-0, win.
The Saint
I won't like you
didn't think so.
hunters job is to do what he likes, it's his character after all. what i'm saying is he's more useful in D than he's being useless in mid. peeling, CCing, killing attackers, and giving his fc RoS is a little better than being a selfish p***k in midfield.
while the hunters are controlling mid, (farming) and the healers are keeping em alive, who's actually trying to win...
Lil
SV huntard
Can't tell if trolling or you really think that.. But anyways tell that to the COUNTLESS times I've gone right through mid and killed efc. Or the COUNTLESS times rogues have gone right through and 1 shot fc.
Dramatized
Legend
Yes, ofc. But I am opposing that of never healing a hunter in mid purely because he tries to do legit work.
I think we all three know there's a big difference between awared, skilled players that tries to keep FCs and healers from crossing mid, and the mindless retards that only go after HKs - and I'm obviously talking about the later.
I'm sure hunter can be good at D, however I think he would be more valuable in mid or on O.
didn't think so.
hunters job is to do what he likes, it's his character after all. what i'm saying is he's more useful in D than he's being useless in mid. peeling, CCing, killing attackers, and giving his fc RoS is a little better than being a selfish p***k in midfield.
while the hunters are controlling mid, (farming) and the healers are keeping em alive, who's actually trying to win...
A hunter AFK'ing in D is nowehere as useful as a hunter in mid that hunts down key-players on the other team.
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