A consumable section wouldn't be a bad idea.
I personally tend not to use consumables, so I'm not familiar enough with them to include them in the guide. If someone wants to make a consumables guide/list - I'd be more than willing to link to that.
A consumable section wouldn't be a bad idea.
Necro, I see you mention Glorious Stats for chest. I searched for other discussions on Peerless, but found nothing recent.For a long time Peerless, was anomalously better. From just looking at the AH, the Glorious has 1 more point than Peerless (and it's a higher level chant, right? So it should). This difference is the same for my 19 and also a high level char. Did that get corrected with BFA?
What's confusing as I checked 3 AH, and the Peerless is still often priced higher.
Necro, I see you mention Glorious Stats for chest. I searched for other discussions on Peerless, but found nothing recent.For a long time Peerless, was anomalously better. From just looking at the AH, the Glorious has 1 more point than Peerless (and it's a higher level chant, right? So it should). This difference is the same for my 19 and also a high level char. Did that get corrected with BFA?
What's confusing as I checked 3 AH, and the Peerless is still often priced higher.
Might want to put https://www.wowhead.com/item=22995/sindorei-warblade&bonus=3718
Up there for warrior and pallies
If I can find anything else I’ll let you know but tbh best gearing list out there by far
Great list.
This is extraordinarily minor but for Priest's the Heirloom is listed as on par with the green BoE for legs. However, the green's can actually be +5/+4 instead of +4/+4. Does this make it BiS? Or does the spellpower enchant for BoA make it better? Thanks.
i think BIS call for 19s with currently obtainable gear get's low chance of be'in true
gfed and felforged gear is way OP for 19s
Its the spellpower enchant. The BoA can get one of the spellpower enchants with 2int or 2 sp. The BoE is good because it could be "of the aurora" (verse/haste for better secondaries) and 5/4 - but you can't put the spellpower leg enchant on it, only the MoP stam/dodge leg enchant. Due to how many things can be "BiS" depending on how ou play and want to gear, they are both viable options.
I can't quite make out what you're trying to say.
i'll try to explain my post lol
i agree with ur point of view on many "BIS" items available right now , but i think some of them aren't the top best items on the bracket. The "sad" point is that these top best items are gf'ed (felforged, inferno robe, deadman's).
when i started searchin these forums in wotlk and cata for twinking hints and guides, ppl considered only one item per slot for each class as the best, aka BiS.
i'll try to explain my post lol
i agree with ur point of view on many "BIS" items available right now , but i think some of them aren't the top best items on the bracket. The "sad" point is that these top best items are gf'ed (felforged, inferno robe, deadman's).
when i started searchin these forums in wotlk and cata for twinking hints and guides, ppl considered only one item per slot for each class as the best, aka BiS.
I’m curious as to why you listed the rouge spec’s as Assasination, Sub, and Combat?
Combat has been replaced with Outlaw.
Idk, mabye im just totally wrong here.
I was running The Deadmines for the back piece last night and a level 19 scaled “Thief’s Blade” dropped for me from the last boss, stats seem superior to other BiS options (BoA etc.)
Shadowfang is obviously still superior but I was wondering if the stats really are ready better than the other options.
Scaled versions, stats:
6-11 dmg
3.27 dmg per second
+ 3 agility
+ 5 stamina
+ 2 critical strike
+ 3 versatility
(For a level 19 rogue, outlaw twink)
Thanks!All of the weapons that scale to 19 have the same weapon damage and speed as far as I know. So any dungeon drop or heirloom are going to have the same weapon damage. For (outlaw) rogues, generally we want a lot of damage output over survivability. Which means agility is top priority. Shadowfang and bronze shortsword have 6 agility, making them really good options (with shadowfang's proc making it slightly better). Cruel Barb (5agi/3crit) is another solid option. Theres a number of options like "Thief's Blade" that are basically of the quickblade - which are solid stats.
For mainhand though, weapon damage is king. And the blue BG crate weapon is higher ilvl and has higher weapon damage than any (non-grandfathered) weapon, making it BiS. Ideally you also get verse/crit as secondaries. Until then, all of the 19 scaled weapons have the same weapon damage, so it would then be stats that we care about - so we can basically use the same logic as we would use in choosing an offhand, which is...
For an offhand, we want the most agility/verse. Shadowfang is BiS offhand. Bronze shortsword is close behind. Since bronze shortsword is so easy to get, I haven't included a lot of the other "almost as good" options like Thief's Blade.
Thanks!
So would I be correct in saying that the ideal weps are the Battleground blue mainhand with versatility and crit as secondaries combined with a shadowfang on offhand?
These are the important enchants for 19s in BfA, broken out by slot. Each enchant links to the various enchants that give the same results. Enchants that are the same for various secondaries (ex, Gift of Versatility/Haste/Crit) will link to the versatility version - you can figure it out from there if you want crit/haste. Heavily based on @Swoops enchant scaling spreadsheet.
AP = Attack Power. Str OR Agi usually gives 1 AP for classes that use those primary stats
SP = Spellpower. Int usually gives 1 AP for classes that use Int
Neck
- Damage on proc (affected by SP/AP/verse) - Mark of the Hidden Satyr
- 18 armor on proc - Mark of Heavy Hide
- Heal on proc (affected by SP/verse?) - Mark of Ancient Priestess
- 1 Secondary - Gift, Breath, Mark
Shoulders (on BoAs only)
- 2 Int + 1 Verse - Greater Inscription of the Oracle, Greater Inscription of Faith, Lesser Inscription of the Crag, Greater Inscription of the Crag
- 2 Int + 1 Haste - Lesser Inscription of Charged Lodestone, Greater Inscription of Charged Lodestone
- 2 Int + 1 Crit - Crane Wing Inscription, Greater Crane Wing Inscription
- 2 SP + 1 Crit - Greater Inscription of the Orb, Greater Inscription of Discipline, Lesser Inscription of the Storm, Greater Inscription of the Storm
- 2 Str + 1 Crt - Lesser Inscription of Jagged Stone, Greater Inscription of Jagged Stone, Tiger Fang Inscription, Greater Tiger Fang Inscription
- 2 Agi + 1 Crit - Tiger Claw Inscription, Greater Tiger Claw Inscription
- 2 AP + 1 Crit - Greater Inscription of the Blade, Greater Inscription of Vengeance, Lesser Inscription of the Axe, Greater Inscription of the Axe
- 2 Stamina + 1 Dodge - Lesser Inscription of Unbreakable Quartz, Greater Inscription of Unbreakable Quartz, Ox Horn Inscription, Greater Ox Horn Inscription
- 2 Dodge + 1 Parry - Greater Inscription of the Knight, Lesser Inscription of the Pinnacle
- 2 Dodge + 1 Stam - Greater Inscription of Warding, Greater Inscription of the Pinnacle
- 2 Stam (on BoEs too) - Heavy Knothide Armor Kit, Borean Armor Kit, Heavy Borean Armor Kit, Heavy Savage Armor Kit
Cloak
- 1 Secondary and 2% speed (speed stacks ONLY with Minor Speed) - Gift
- 3 Stam - Protection
- 2 Int - Greater Intellect, Intellect
- 3 Agi + 7 Armor - Shadow Armor
- 1 Str - Binding, Word
Chest
- 7 Stats (agi/int/str/stam) - Glorious Stats
- 4 Verse - Mighty Versatility, Exceptional Versatility, Greater Versatility, Major Versatility
Bracers
- 2 Stats (agi/int/str/stam) - Stats
- 3 Str - Brawn, Major Strength, Superior Strength
- 4 Stam - Major Stamina
- 3 AP - Greater Assault
- 3 SP - Superior Spellpower, Greater Spellpower
Gloves
- 7 Stam (on BoE only) - Glove Reinforcements
- 4 Str - Super Strength, Mighty Strength, Exceptional Strength
- 4 Agi - Major Agility
- 3 SP - Major Healing, Major Spellpower
Legs
- 3 Str + 2 Crit (on BoEs or BoAs) - Angerhide Leg Armor
- 3 Str + 2 Crit (on BoAs, LW Spell) - Draconic Leg Reinforcements
- 3 Agi + 2 Crit (on BoEs or BoAs) - Shadowleather Leg Armor
- 3 Agi + 2 Crit (on BoAs, LW Spell) - Primal Leg Reinforcements
- 4 Stam + 2 Dodge (on BoEs or BoAs) - Ironscale Leg Armor
- 4 Stam + 2 Dodge (on BoAs, LW Spell) - Heavy Leg Reinforcements
- 2 SP + 2 Verse (on BoAs) - Brilliant Spellthread
- 2 Int + 1 Verse (on BoAs) - Ghostly Spellthread, Powerful Ghostly Spellthread
- 2 Int + 2 Stam ( on BoAs) - Enchanted Spellthread, Powerful Enchanted Spellthread
- 2 SP + 2 Stam (on BoAs) - Silver Spellthread, Mystic Spellthread, Golden Spellthread, Runic Spellthread, Azure Spellthread, Sapphire Spellthread
- 1 Armor - Light Armor Kit, Medium Armor Kit
Boots
- 8% Movespeed - Minor Speed (stacks with all other speed boosts)
- 2 Agi + 8% Movespeed - Blurred Speed, Assassin’s Step, Cat’s Swiftness
- 2 Stam + 8% Movespeed - Earthen Vitality, Tuskarr’s Vitality, Boar’s Speed
- 3 Stam - Fortitude, Greater Fortitude
- 1 Stam / 1 Verse - Vitality, Greater Vitality
- 2 AP - Assault, Greater Assault
Rings
- 1 Secondary - Pact (BfA), Seal (BfA), Binding, Word, Gift, Breath
Weapon
- (BfA) Coastal Surge
- (BfA) Versatility
- (BfA) Armor
- Elemental Force
- Crusader
- Landslide
- Heartsong
- 9 Spellpower - Spellpower, Major Spellpower, Healing Power
Ranged Weapon
- (BfA) 300-350 damage on proc (BoA only) - Incendiary Ammunition
- 170-200 damage on proc and 71 agility (BoA only) - Flintlocke's Woodchucker
- 94 AP on proc (BoA only) - Gnomish Xray Scope
- +1 Weapon Damage (Any weapon) - Standard Scope
Shield
- 3 Stam / 3 Verse - Vitality
- 4 Stam - Protection, Major Stamina
- 4 Int - Major Intellect
- ~16 Damage on Block (lol) - Thorium Shield Spike
- 2 Parry and 50% reduced Disarm (lol) - Titanium Plating
Offhand
- 4 int - Major Intellect