Xpoff can que bgs now. What 29 twink you making?

Every single 29 will have a creation date in august 2022.
Not if they're old 27s or 25s who leveled up in the past by accident or something and now have a chance at a "new life" as a 29.

Sure the majority will be fotm rollers but you can't deny that there's a bunch of people with old twinks playing 29 now.
 
Not if they're old 27s or 25s who leveled up in the past by accident or something and now have a chance at a "new life" as a 29.

Sure the majority will be fotm rollers but you can't deny that there's a bunch of people with old twinks playing 29 now.
Yea and what have yall done with these old twinks you love so much? Did you organize games? Did you create a community? Did you rally your fellow twinks?

No.

But when blizzard hands you a bracket of F2Ps to farm, well here you all come crawling out of the woodwork talking about these twinks you just love so much youre so glad you get to play them again blahblahblah.

Miss me with that shit. Rejuvenizer loves his twinks. Man organized a whole ass bracket and put on the best 2v2 tourney we've seen all xpac with nary a leveler in sight. THATS love. Rise loves his twinks. Dude funded a whole team of 39s just to play WSG a few nights a week. Thats love for a toon.

Yall just get to farm undergeared Brazilian F2Ps now and are trying to couch it in having an old character youre really excited to play.
 
Yea and what have yall done with these old twinks you love so much? Did you organize games? Did you create a community? Did you rally your fellow twinks?

No.

Yes. Ever heard of Project Sixty? What about the guilds on Argent Dawn and such full of 60 twinks?

We tried. We failed. Bracket died.

But when blizzard hands you a bracket of F2Ps to farm, well here you all come crawling out of the woodwork talking about these twinks you just love so much youre so glad you get to play them again blahblahblah.
I've been here annoying you people for years though. Can't put this one on me :p

Miss me with that shit. Rejuvenizer loves his twinks. Man organized a whole ass bracket and put on the best 2v2 tourney we've seen all xpac with nary a leveler in sight. THATS love. Rise loves his twinks. Dude funded a whole team of 39s just to play WSG a few nights a week. Thats love for a toon.

I bet I have more /played time on just this char than most of you do on yours.
 
The only thing I really want from tbc raids for my rogue is the dagger from kara as an offhand, I already found an alternative for crux, its a quest item from ice crown.
Curved Assassin's Dagger - Item - World of Warcraft (wowhead.com)
Not as good as crux but barely worse ( has less stamina stats stay the same as blue/epic)
maybe bracers from sunwell as well would be nice. Def a lot of options for fresh 29s gearing wise, heck even 25s since they can do the three icecrown dungeons as well.
 
Yes. Ever heard of Project Sixty? What about the guilds on Argent Dawn and such full of 60 twinks?

I bet I have more /played time on just this char than most of you do on yours.


How much? SS pls
 
How much? SS pls
It's not that much tbh. Would've had far more if I could actually have done bgs all this time.

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Felt it was high enough to make my point nonetheless.
 
Its kind of a lot considering vanilla was like 16 years ago rofl.
And considering I haven't been able to do bgs for like, 10 years.

If I could, I'd have been at double the amount of days /played, easily.
 
And considering I haven't been able to do bgs for like, 10 years.

If I could, I'd have been at double the amount of days /played, easily.


You don't need to justify yourself.

I'm subbed because i do mainly endgame stuff and sometimes Low Level bg... and now can anyone tell me why the heck i should make 20s instead of 29s? On 29 we have more abilitys more dungeons one more Talent and more usage of professions! Here is literally no reason to Play a 20 instead of 29....

Also i have 3 gf'd 70s one of them with a interesting trinket from karazhan which can give You on use up to 360 versatility! I really want to Play some bg's with it lol
 
You don't need to justify yourself.
Thanks, that's actually reassuring to hear.

I'm subbed because i do mainly endgame stuff and sometimes Low Level bg... and now can anyone tell me why the heck i should make 20s instead of 29s? On 29 we have more abilitys more dungeons one more Talent and more usage of professions! Here is literally no reason to Play a 20 instead of 29....

All four of these levels can compete with each other rather well and I assume even more so in Dragonflight due to the new Talent system giving us all so many important abilities that we can pick-and-choose as we please.

The only benefits that being a higher level will give you is that you might have a few baseline abilities that lower levels do not have as well as having a few more talent points to spend.

Level 20 - Free to Play / Vet - The perks of playing at this level are simple; You can play the game for free.

Level 25 - ex-60, Classic Level Cap - Mostly for people who have an old level 25 character with gf'd gear. There's no need to level up that character. In fact, keeping it at that level might be interesting for a "Classic plus" experience, and it makes any rare/unobtainable item that you may have worth just so much more because it's not on a "dead character level" (which is the main reason for playing a lower level).

Level 27 - ex-70, TBC Level Cap - Same as above, but for people who have old 27s.

Level 29 - Bracket level Cap - You'll have the biggest advantage over others at this level; The most abilities, The most talent points and possibly access to some items lower levels cannot get due to zone and dungeon minimum level requirements.

I'd still like to reiterate that a level 20 IS able to compete with 29s. Yes, you are weaker. Yes, the 29s have a big advantage, but no it's not an "instant-loss" situation.
 
You don't need to justify yourself.

I'm subbed because i do mainly endgame stuff and sometimes Low Level bg... and now can anyone tell me why the heck i should make 20s instead of 29s? On 29 we have more abilitys more dungeons one more Talent and more usage of professions! Here is literally no reason to Play a 20 instead of 29....

Also i have 3 gf'd 70s one of them with a interesting trinket from karazhan which can give You on use up to 360 versatility! I really want to Play some bg's with it lol
If only you could afford more than 1 account youd not have to make excuses for yourself.
 
So, throwing this out there. What are the chances Blizz will make an all in 10-59 bracket in DF? But hopefully with better scaling than how Epics currently work - and possibly with gaining additional abilities inside the bg up to lvl 59.
The game has become so big with so much content that I’m assuming the lower PvP brackets don’t get a lot of pops (outside of 20-29 and possibly 10-19).
I feel like something more will come from this…….. :FrogeTorch: something is brewing at Blizzavisionsoft……
 
I'd still like to reiterate that a level 20 IS able to compete with 29s. Yes, you are weaker. Yes, the 29s have a big advantage, but no it's not an "instant-loss" situation.

sorry but all I am seeing here is a fisherman carefully throwing out the bait for the 20s that will actually believe they ll stand a chance vs 29s.
 
Lemme let you in on another secret. Every F2P on this forum has subbed accounts. Even those that claim they dont ;)

This might be the only time I disagree with you in the whole thread... Could you please write "Most" instead of "Every" F2P. But everything else is correct.

*Sad pure f2p noises*
 
So, throwing this out there. What are the chances Blizz will make an all in 10-59 bracket in DF? But hopefully with better scaling than how Epics currently work - and possibly with gaining additional abilities inside the bg up to lvl 59.
The game has become so big with so much content that I’m assuming the lower PvP brackets don’t get a lot of pops (outside of 20-29 and possibly 10-19).
I feel like something more will come from this…….. :FrogeTorch: something is brewing at Blizzavisionsoft……

i dont know if its what they wanted to do or something they had no choice over.. like just too few players left in the whole game to make bg pops fast or often enough .. all their problems are like a vicious circle .. small realms has nothing left in their AH and they had no choice by to merge some items on AH
 
sorry but all I am seeing here is a fisherman carefully throwing out the bait for the 20s that will actually believe they ll stand a chance vs 29s.
A priest with 3.6k HP slapped my hunter with a dot and a penance and that was all she wrote

Also being killed comfortably within rogue stun durations 1v1, repeatedly. No time to even get turtle off

I'm sure that after a week of leveling, and gearing with better stuff than what they had, that 20's are going to be very competitive against 29's COPIUM
 
sorry but all I am seeing here is a fisherman carefully throwing out the bait for the 20s that will actually believe they ll stand a chance vs 29s.

They stand a chance against 29's with low ilvl and mathematically inferior raid gear. Against socketed ilvl 37 boes, not so much.
 
They stand a chance against 29's with low ilvl and mathematically inferior raid gear. Against socketed ilvl 37 boes, not so much.

Thankfully people who would reroll a level 29 character aren't the type to go after the best in slot gear...

You're delusional.
 
They stand a chance against 29's with low ilvl and mathematically inferior raid gear. Against socketed ilvl 37 boes, not so much.
"I m comfortable with this gear, even tho I could get better and be stronger, I'll stay like this" ...yeah, unless getting better gear requires a sacrifice to the gods, people will go for it - from a PvP standpoint
 

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