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MYT said:
QQ more about consumables. All part of the game.
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this website needs to require some kind of IQ test for posting in threads

something being "part of the game" has nothing to do with how cancerous it is

brewmaster monks are, yes, you guessed it, part of the game
 
rubikz said:
this website needs to require some kind of IQ test for posting in threads

something being "part of the game" has nothing to do with how cancerous it is

brewmaster monks are, yes, you guessed it, part of the game
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If the iq test were set at my level or above you wouldn't be able to post. Careful what you wish for.

Your analogy is terrible. Comparing limiting a broken class at 29 to completely limiting consumable is absurd. Back when there were 20x the twinks and great competition, premades were full consumables allowed . Heck there was a ptr US wide 1on1 tourny and full consumables were allowed. It adds a lot to the level of skilled required to win

Current players seem to want it as easy mode as possible. Easy talents, easy cookie cutter gear, easy strat of sit in middle and spam your abilities without having to actual understand objective based play, and definitely don't add dozens of consumables because that would just be too complicated.

learn to play the real game and you won't fear consumables.
 
MYT said:
If the iq test were set at my level or above you wouldn't be able to post. Careful what you wish for.

Your analogy is terrible. Comparing limiting a broken class at 29 to completely limiting consumable is absurd. Back when there were 20x the twinks and great competition, premades were full consumables allowed . Heck there was a ptr US wide 1on1 tourny and full consumables were allowed. It adds a lot to the level of skilled required to win

Current players seem to want it as easy mode as possible. Easy talents, easy cookie cutter gear, easy strat of sit in middle and spam your abilities without having to actual understand objective based play, and definitely don't add dozens of consumables because that would just be too complicated.

learn to play the real game and you won't fear consumables.
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the analogy was fine because of how vague your "part of the game" statement was

immediately after that you use a 1v1 tourney analogy with consumables allowed to justify their usage in 10v10 premades. competitive premades in any bracket have disallowed the use of most consumables other than rumsey rum and bandages for the past 6+ years.

any class in 29s is easy enough to play with the 4 abilities you have and reaction time limited by global cooldowns. i'm not sure why you think putting in flash bombs add a whole new dimension of skill that's never been heard of
 
rubikz said:
the analogy was fine because of how vague your "part of the game" statement was

immediately after that you use a 1v1 tourney analogy with consumables allowed to justify their usage in 10v10 premades. competitive premades in any bracket have disallowed the use of most consumables other than rumsey rum and bandages for the past 6+ years.

any class in 29s is easy enough to play with the 4 abilities you have and reaction time limited by global cooldowns. i'm not sure why you think putting in flash bombs add a whole new dimension of skill that's never been heard of
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I'm not advocating to add flash bombs - I think all consumables are fine. They're incredibly diverse and add a lot to the game. I understand the "appeal" of sitting in mid getting dizzying haze spammed (ok not really) but prefer a game that requires more thought and adaptability. But that's just me.
 
And for the record, I was part of the elite dominating 19/29 premades when everything was allowed but exploiting. Sorry to hear that QQ'ers were able to dumb it down to cookie cutter easy mode after we quit.
 
MYT said:
I'm not advocating to add flash bombs - I think all consumables are fine. They're incredibly diverse and add a lot to the game. I understand the "appeal" of sitting in mid getting dizzying haze spammed (ok not really) but prefer a game that requires more thought and adaptability. But that's just me.
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you have once again failed to make any kind of argument other than repeatedly saying that consumables add a ton of skill and diversity to the game. i believe the contrary; consumables allow you to make up for positioning errors or misusing a trinket by popping a swiftness potion or free action potion. or you get to have an aoe stun unintended for your class by equipping a random trinket with 6 charges. the irony is that nastay considers me using a class ability in 2011 to stay in combat completely unacceptable.

how you did premades "back in the day" isn't really relevant. the minimalist consumable rules were made since having everyone farm +10 intellect potions and +70 health fortitude potions to pop every time they died wasnt adding any skill or complexity to the game

by your logic 29 premades should be druid fcs using free action potions to displacer beast across the map and a resto druid following him with a speed pot spamming heals in caster form.

all consumables are fine since they add a lot to the game, right?
 
Do you really want me to respond to Druids faping and resto Druids spamming their hot in caster as they speed pot through your team?

The fact that you think those are insurmountable/viable demonstrates my point exactly that they add a lot of complexity to this very dumbed down game currently.
 
Said by people with no experience using full consumables in organized games.

I guess we have very different ideas of what skill involves. You seem to think it's standing in the mid spamming abilities and "positioning". I think those are just small parts of it and that adding the ability to use 100 different consumables adds a lot of variables which makes the game more fun and skillful since timing those abilities makes things a lot more complex.

I don't even know who you guys are in game (nor most ppl posting) so you may be great 29's and this is just a legit difference of opinion. But I rarely use consumables and still think they add a ton to the game and am in favor of allowing.
 
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Yes because cutting and pasting people's words together to make them appear to be a sentence that was never uttered is legit!

Not quite as legit as standing in mid spamming your abilities and thinking that's the true measure of greatness though. Nothing quite as legit as that.
 
rubikz said:
yea mend pet was a legit play against those pesky rogues
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You're starting to sound like your better half.

rubikz said:
your inability to play the game without spamming as many consumables as possible has nothing to do with the class you are playing or what classes you are going up against. you also spammed flash bombs on a wotlk private server as a 39 hunter (see http://i.imgur.com/nwk9P65.png)
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Games are just more entertaining with consumables. I'm surprised you brought up flash bombs on a private server and not the Arcane Bombs of last 39 revival on live. I guess no SS of the latter? Worlde First- the first 100 in line get free autographs.

rubikz said:
rumor has it blizzard got the idea for the alchemy lab you can build in your garrison by looking inside nastay's backpack
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I get peeved when I zone into WSG having forgotten to pack some specific item in my bags and the Guild Chest is on cooldown.
 
i suspect it's less about making games more interesting and more to ensure that you have an advantage over everyone else in the game

that's why you go through such great lengths to ensure that you have exploited enchants in every slot possible on the twinks you play

also according to the 19/29 elite premade guy exploits werent allowed way back when premades were elite so that might be a threat to the skill and diversity of gameplay in this bracket
 
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If you were referring to me I don't have a single "exploited" enchant. My 19 priest has two gf enchants it neither was an exploit (just applied one 2 months ago actually). My 29's have nothing that you can't buy on ah except a grandfathered helm health enchant on googles I haven't worn once since I got the boa.

There WERE enchants that required exploiting back in the day but I've never had one on any character. And boas allowed application of some enchants that couldn't be done previously since required higher level and made soulbound.
 
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Lol why has this thread that started out great become a place for arguments. Please vent ya'lls frustrations elsewhere no one really wants to hear it nor do they care.
 
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