When are we going to address the elephant in the 20-29 bracket?

[accel]

OK, checked the screen more thoroughly.

For Alliance - 2 guys are twinks (Fig and Sevenzes), 4 guys are low-tech f2p or vet (130 of a primary stat instead of 160+, one has a level 45 weapon), rest levelers.

For Horde - let's say 2 top guys are twinks (I didn't check them because I am too lazy to type umlauts using character map, but whatever, let's say they are), 1 guy is veeeery low-tech vet (112 agi, ok), rest levelers.

What was your point again?

Sorry, what happened in the screen is unequivocal. The Alliance steamrolled the Horde. They lost on objectives because they didn't care about the objectives, they cared about steamrolling. The gear on characters in the common screen is skewed towards -- badum-tss -- the Alliance.

 

[Phonebook]

lol..

how bored do you have to be to look up armories of players from a screenshot from NA when you play on EU yourself <.<

besides why do people even post scoreboards without having battlegroundenemies :/ ?

 

[accel]

Everything for science.

 

[Warglave]

What was your point again?

I am not even complaining about the alliance premades, even if there are constantly 2 ally premades running, I could still get lucky and dodge them some games but almost every single game I was in, alliance simply had more twinks than horde did.

(basically that this was THE example of the original complaint. Levelers/f2play vs levelers/f2play... How many twinks?)

And I'm sorry, but f2play with no gems/enchants do not count as twinks. Any random BoA level 25+ should smash them.

edit- here you go accel, this was the original point. Sorry, I know you came in late back there.

what do you mean? alliance had way more twinks and way more kills?

I was playing against you? I don't know who you are but our guys were dropping like flies (for every ally character death, there was literally 78/41 = 1.9 horde deaths).

which is aligned with how my thread is pointing out the abundance of alliance twinks.

 

[glancealot]

i was in that game so it definitely felt like alliance had more twinks, i admit i never checked armories of each toon to confirm.

but if you wanna argue for the sake of arguing and just completely ignore the sheer differences in terms of damage done/healing done/total deaths of the two teams, we can agree to disagree. you sound awefully agitated today bro, relax.

besides why do people even post scoreboards without having battlegroundenemies :/ ?

thanks i am gonna try out that addon

 

[Counsel]

I get really bored when i see the same crowd smashing randos, I don't care which faction or if I'm playing with/against.

2-3 twinks a side is the sweet spot for randoms.

 

[Chops]

yikes

 

[Miles]

This thread has inspired me to gear my hunter.

 

[glancealot]

This thread has inspired me to gear my hunter.

horde hunter?

 

[Chops]

This thread has inspired me to gear my hunter.

 

[Miles]

horde hunter?

Check sig picture.

 

[glancealot]

too afraid to play on the losing side, I see.

 

[JadeFire]

Glance: WHAT DO YOU WANT?

Do you want people to spend time making a new twink now that there are grandfathered items/green i28s are outlandishly expensive time/money wise to get? NOT going to happen.

Do you want people to pay for a faction change? NOT going to happen.

Do you want people to just agree with you? NOT going to happen.

Do you want people to not play hunter? NOT going to happen.

WHAT DO YOU WANT outside of that context?

 

[Miles]

too afraid to play on the losing side, I see.

Nah, my guild is alliance and alliance I will remain. Appreciate the bait though.

 

[glancealot]

Glance: WHAT DO YOU WANT?

Do you want people to spend time making a new twink

yes, this.

i can personally fund horde twinks on my server (32 slot bags, gold, https://www.wowhead.com/spell=25129/brilliant-wizard-oil , etc), in addition to the overwhelming enchant/gem/prof/dungeon run/28 BoE support that my guild already offers.

 

[Chops]

Glance: WHAT DO YOU WANT?

if you havent figured out that he's just a troll thats really committed to the bit, thats on you.

 

[glancealot]

if you havent figured out that he's just a troll thats really committed to the bit, thats on you.

just because you are a moderator, it doesn't mean you can go around and be disrespectful.

you have called me clueless, idiot, troll just because you don't like me.

i will shrug that off because i have been around the twinking scene far longer than you have.

 

[JadeFire]

just because you are a moderator, it doesn't mean you can go around and be disrespectful.

you have called me clueless, idiot, troll just because you don't like me.

i will shrug that off because i have been around the twinking scene far longer than you have.

In Chop's defense his toleration of this pointless thread is proof of his general respect.

 

[Chops]

just because you are a moderator, it doesn't mean you can go around and be disrespectful.

we all troll from time to time, dont take it as an insult

 

[accel]

Do you want people to spend time making a new twink

yes, this.

I guess I said that already, but I will say it just one more time and then shut up:

I doubt asking people to do X will make them do X. Let's say there's an imbalance between factions. Let's just accept that as a given. You want to not suffer from that imbalance. How do you achieve that? Asking people to fix it will not work, you can only count on yourself. So, what do you do? I can tell you what I am doing - I am gearing identical twinks for both A and H. This way, whichever way the imbalance swings, I don't care because I am all set. Yes, that's a hassle. But that's the cost of doing business.

There are alternatives: eg, you might enter a bg, decide whether you are outmatched, and if you are, leave and switch to a different twink, or to a main for the duration of the deserter debuff. I personally think this is worse than having an option to play whichever side you want, but that's an option. There might be other options, too.