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Simple poll
Nodoka
Contributor
Why the fuck would they merge a xp-on shit bracket where everyone runs around randomly not knowing what the fuck to do with a xp-off bracket where people pretend to know what they are doing?
ShadowDragon
Grandfathered
Doesn't matter in CN server.
Flamer
2014 and 2016 Twink Cup Champion
no one gives a fuck about ur shitty servers
Nodoka
Contributor
Take US 19s for example were their games have some quality
Now go ahead and compare that to exp-on...
Stop being retarded theres a reason I dont play my chinese twinks or my chars there despite I get 50-100 ms there
ShadowDragon
Grandfathered
Before 3.22 anyone enjoy play twink-only BG? Well, merging brackets and play with exp-on is good.
Nodoka
Contributor
Putting twinks back into open BGs would have a worse impact on our community then it will do good.
Activity plays no part if you cant get decent quality games. And are forced to play with and versus a team with no gear and does not know how to play this game correctly.
I personally could not play that and enjoy myself. When we both know it just results to one team GY farming the other one. Cause they dont know where the flag is located on the map.
Imo if you want exp merg stick to your shit infested china realm but it just makes you look like filth who cant actually deal with someone of equal skill. When the only way for you to win is to pray on undergeared filth.
And only way your english is that good is if your not originally from China lol. So your either 100% fake or you choose to live there. Which makes no sense to me.
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Mocha
Legendary
Actually, merging exp on and off will push competitive players to have competitive premades once again.
Want competition, balanced teams, good comps, experienced twinks? You never see that, never could have, and never will be able to find that in PUGs... Yet you've always had the option to find that in competitive premades or wargames.
Just my 2c.
Mocha
Legendary
Bbbbump The Guaranteed Revival And Future of Twinking - Forums - World of Warcraft
There's quite a lot of support that was voiced in favor of this subject.
There's quite a lot of support that was voiced in favor of this subject.
ShadowDragon
Grandfathered
1. You are the first one who compliment about my poor English, thank you if it is not a sarcasm.
2. As far as I think, the first priority is attract more players join us, faster quenes and larger community would benfit almost all twinks. If there is a guild with 500 twinks, you can duel or wargames with other twinks easily if you like.
3.In most cases, CN twinks quene bg sololy, 1 more twink among 15 players would not result in too much advantage. If you are horde, you probably still lose.
4.In general, low level balance is worse than max level because BLZ never care, why not choose max level 3v3 arena if balance is so important?
Nodoka
Contributor
I rather have slower que time with better quality games then insta que with crappy games.
As for balance, why is this even brought up 11 years later? Blizzard balance for max lvl not for 19s adapt to what they change or move to max level or a different game if you can't handle changes.
Thats not entirely true tho.
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Nodoka
Contributor
aw I cant even look cuz I voted : P Assume its Mocha
Rusks
Legend
I dunno, lots of low to mid tier pug heros (one exception). The kinda funny thing is a merge would make a mid tier player look like a god next to exp on morons.
Also you should be able to look. [US+EU] What would you prefer - View Poll Results
Mocha
Legendary
Arguing for competition in PUGs is simply catering to lazy mentalities of adolescent epeeners. It's the same people whom have been crying about "jajas" in PUGs. If you want balanced teams, no jajas, make your best attempt at growing a pair of furbolgs and organize a wargame. When we were sick of you guys gy farming out friends into quitting, we organized wargames and group pug queues and had a blast. Unfortunately, we couldn't encourage most of our friends to come back after the nail in the coffin had been driven.
If PUGs were constantly available to anyone and everyone and they're not being afkd out / told to afk out by most of the posters on this forum, our active community would double in no time. Most of the posters here want to be a big fish in a small pond. That's a pretty pussy way to go about things. Being vocal about wanting competition yet only queuing fotm comps in Skype into PUGs. Most people here say they want competition yet avoid true competition at all costs. Disbanding after each premade loss, not premading unless your "a team" is on, blaming every loss on how you didn't have your "a team", coming back every 3 months with a new name, queuing up into PUGs with your bis fotm homies in skype, afking people out of games.
If we had more people queuing PUGs and more people joining the community, that will result in more guilds and who knows what could happen with that (more wsgs popping, more people for arenas, more premading guilds, bigger and better community). I've been strongly encouraging the bracket sprout on different realms instead of centralizing as the pool of exposure on one realm as it is far too limiting for years. I've been saying this since day one and stopped being so vocal about it due to the pure lack of proactive community members whom want to see the community grow in numbers instead of shrink. Although yes it's possible to recruit others... It's naturally going to be more difficult than if others found us instead of us needing to seek those players out and sell them on 19s. I don't see any new person whom stumbles across TI becoming interested in what this community has to offer. If I found TI today, I'd see nothing but complete disrespect and out of my own enjoyment, I'd probably roll ferals with my friends just to piss these people off for an hour or two every week when I have nothing better to do. The community has gained a few members here and there, but it's absolutely lost more dedicated members due to the complete shitstorm that the community has become.
Twinks aren't a whole lot of fun now, I'll admit, but to me they haven't been fun since before Cata. Why do I still play? With me only being able to play for a month or so at a time, it makes more sense for me than to try to grind out gear on a 100 and then come back a few months later and have to do it all over again. With wow tokens, I've been having more fun just grinding out gold from old raids than encountering the same 10 names, 3-0ing or being 3-0d and then logging. Those saying "I think it's good that twinks only pop during winter break and summer" are only saying so because it's convenient for them as they're in school during the offseason. When you're at school, there are still community members and new players trying to enjoy their 19s. We should cater things to these people as someday you'll move on, quit, or be occupied with your own real life and whom will be left to fill our shoes? Better get a newer generation geared up and in line now... I wish you guys could have experienced Vengeance back in the day... will always be the greatest community I've ever been a part of. None of this pussy afking out / loss dodging and if you talked shit, you backed it up. We wouldn't sell out our friend's IP addresses for a few quick laughs at ddosing the community... Speaking of, I've actually recently seen someone bring up 19s in a random BG and another person in the game vocalized the impression that we're "retarded elitist children whom ddos each other to win PUGs." True or not, keep in mind that some people actually have this impression of this community and I wouldn't exactly say they're in the wrong either.
Just have a thought about legacy every once in a while and consider the future of 19s in a time where you may be more occupied with your real life. The communities that you are passionate about returning to are those whom provide positive experiences to the members. Build a community for the casual 19 player to feel and be welcome because gearing towards casual provides no bottom end and no ceiling where as gearing only towards high competition is 100% finite and limiting. Also gain fathom that in being an exclusive and elitist community, more people will quit than those whom will rise to the competition and join the community. You should always meet competition with competition, don't bring an AR15 to a paintball match and say "well you guys should have brought better guns... maybe next time you'll be as good as me" as that's EXACTLY what queuing Skype fotms in PUGs is. Now is that dude whom brought that gun to a paintball match looking for competition? Or just gaining pleasure in dominating? If he were looking for competition, he'd join an even match... not go into one knowing he'll dominate. Logic.
Just a little bit of cherry to top things
If PUGs were constantly available to anyone and everyone and they're not being afkd out / told to afk out by most of the posters on this forum, our active community would double in no time. Most of the posters here want to be a big fish in a small pond. That's a pretty pussy way to go about things. Being vocal about wanting competition yet only queuing fotm comps in Skype into PUGs. Most people here say they want competition yet avoid true competition at all costs. Disbanding after each premade loss, not premading unless your "a team" is on, blaming every loss on how you didn't have your "a team", coming back every 3 months with a new name, queuing up into PUGs with your bis fotm homies in skype, afking people out of games.
If we had more people queuing PUGs and more people joining the community, that will result in more guilds and who knows what could happen with that (more wsgs popping, more people for arenas, more premading guilds, bigger and better community). I've been strongly encouraging the bracket sprout on different realms instead of centralizing as the pool of exposure on one realm as it is far too limiting for years. I've been saying this since day one and stopped being so vocal about it due to the pure lack of proactive community members whom want to see the community grow in numbers instead of shrink. Although yes it's possible to recruit others... It's naturally going to be more difficult than if others found us instead of us needing to seek those players out and sell them on 19s. I don't see any new person whom stumbles across TI becoming interested in what this community has to offer. If I found TI today, I'd see nothing but complete disrespect and out of my own enjoyment, I'd probably roll ferals with my friends just to piss these people off for an hour or two every week when I have nothing better to do. The community has gained a few members here and there, but it's absolutely lost more dedicated members due to the complete shitstorm that the community has become.
Twinks aren't a whole lot of fun now, I'll admit, but to me they haven't been fun since before Cata. Why do I still play? With me only being able to play for a month or so at a time, it makes more sense for me than to try to grind out gear on a 100 and then come back a few months later and have to do it all over again. With wow tokens, I've been having more fun just grinding out gold from old raids than encountering the same 10 names, 3-0ing or being 3-0d and then logging. Those saying "I think it's good that twinks only pop during winter break and summer" are only saying so because it's convenient for them as they're in school during the offseason. When you're at school, there are still community members and new players trying to enjoy their 19s. We should cater things to these people as someday you'll move on, quit, or be occupied with your own real life and whom will be left to fill our shoes? Better get a newer generation geared up and in line now... I wish you guys could have experienced Vengeance back in the day... will always be the greatest community I've ever been a part of. None of this pussy afking out / loss dodging and if you talked shit, you backed it up. We wouldn't sell out our friend's IP addresses for a few quick laughs at ddosing the community... Speaking of, I've actually recently seen someone bring up 19s in a random BG and another person in the game vocalized the impression that we're "retarded elitist children whom ddos each other to win PUGs." True or not, keep in mind that some people actually have this impression of this community and I wouldn't exactly say they're in the wrong either.
Just have a thought about legacy every once in a while and consider the future of 19s in a time where you may be more occupied with your real life. The communities that you are passionate about returning to are those whom provide positive experiences to the members. Build a community for the casual 19 player to feel and be welcome because gearing towards casual provides no bottom end and no ceiling where as gearing only towards high competition is 100% finite and limiting. Also gain fathom that in being an exclusive and elitist community, more people will quit than those whom will rise to the competition and join the community. You should always meet competition with competition, don't bring an AR15 to a paintball match and say "well you guys should have brought better guns... maybe next time you'll be as good as me" as that's EXACTLY what queuing Skype fotms in PUGs is. Now is that dude whom brought that gun to a paintball match looking for competition? Or just gaining pleasure in dominating? If he were looking for competition, he'd join an even match... not go into one knowing he'll dominate. Logic.
Just a little bit of cherry to top things
Mocha
Legendary
Pop off my dick. I'm going to vote for whatever I'm passionate about. Not disband any personal opinion that is contrary to any popular belief.
You said I was a "cunt" to you in the thread I linked above (still having a hard time seeing that as the truth). Since then you've been at my belt every chance you can get and even going so far as to now insult my gameplay? Even though I've since apologized to you... here you are begging for that juicy load as you always are. I can always, always, depend on you to give my name relevancy despite me looking to just do my own thing and having 0 desire in such. Being insulted by you on gameplay it's quite interesting, as the only times I've ever seen you ever so much as kill me in any PUG over the past few years, no matter what classes we were on, were the small handful of times you've ambushed me me at low HP. I don't really care what you think, but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to have a giggle at your attempts of insulting me lol.