Shamatix
Guest
What I am saying is, is there really such a huge difference between 20-29 on EU than leveling bgs for real?
What I am saying is, is there really such a huge difference between 20-29 on EU than leveling bgs for real?
Jva
Legend
What a beautiful set of broccoli
madhombre
Legend
yes, leveling bgs are by far more enjoyable
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Mocha
Legendary
What some people should consider is that there are typically near equal amounts of horde and alliance queuing up. Horde has been more popular in the past, but regardless I'll show you how this won't have much of an impact on things.
If exp on and off were merged, we would see many games popping very frequently with maybe only around 2-4 twinks per game on both factions. Sure that means there's a lot of "dead weight" for those looking for competitive games, but outside of wargames and premades, that's not necessarily a bad thing as those games will probably be quite competitive. Annoying, but competitive. It would be like a 4v4 wsg with obstacles and annoyances to create challenge in those 4 players.
What if one faction gets 5 twinks and the other gets 2 twinks? Those 2 twinks will have to coordinate with their 8 other teammates if they want to win. This isn't necessarily a bad thing either as this is educating non twinks and challenging twinks alike.
Twinks currently are not that much more powerful than nontwink equivalents. The impact one single twink will have on a game will be the result of their experience, not so much their gear or abilities and with that being said, will not be as strong as it was in the past. Likewise, someone whom queues up to destroy nontwinks will still have to go through extreme challenges if he wants to cap flags and win the game. Back in the day I used to be able to FC on my dodge rogue while absolutely destroying anything and everything. With stacks and the potency of nontwinks, this will not be easy. Long story short, one twink will not be able to go 50-0 and cap 3 flags whilst gy farming like we used to be able to do in the past. Twinks will die to nontwinks.
Queuing up these 4v4 WSG matches in my opinion will be more competitive than the 10v10 twink comp vs comp games we have now. In current games, the outcome can pretty much be decided upon zoning in. In these mixed BGs, it will be a challenge either way and it will require coordination to win unless you just get lucky and your team is organized and focused on destroying the other team. The avalanche affect will not be as relevant as it is today where 1st cap nearly guarantees 3-0. You may get one cap, but you cannot expect to get the next, nor the one after that.
I guarantee 99% chance that if you started twinking before WOTLK, you started twinking because you encountered a twink. Today, the only way to gain new twinks is by the previous 1% which was vocal recruitment and is less effective and efficient than pure exposure.
How many times do you guys constantly hear "No way... 19 twinks still exist?" Every week? I know on Akama, I do several times a week. People don't even know about twinking any more.
If exp on and off were merged, we would see many games popping very frequently with maybe only around 2-4 twinks per game on both factions. Sure that means there's a lot of "dead weight" for those looking for competitive games, but outside of wargames and premades, that's not necessarily a bad thing as those games will probably be quite competitive. Annoying, but competitive. It would be like a 4v4 wsg with obstacles and annoyances to create challenge in those 4 players.
What if one faction gets 5 twinks and the other gets 2 twinks? Those 2 twinks will have to coordinate with their 8 other teammates if they want to win. This isn't necessarily a bad thing either as this is educating non twinks and challenging twinks alike.
Twinks currently are not that much more powerful than nontwink equivalents. The impact one single twink will have on a game will be the result of their experience, not so much their gear or abilities and with that being said, will not be as strong as it was in the past. Likewise, someone whom queues up to destroy nontwinks will still have to go through extreme challenges if he wants to cap flags and win the game. Back in the day I used to be able to FC on my dodge rogue while absolutely destroying anything and everything. With stacks and the potency of nontwinks, this will not be easy. Long story short, one twink will not be able to go 50-0 and cap 3 flags whilst gy farming like we used to be able to do in the past. Twinks will die to nontwinks.
Queuing up these 4v4 WSG matches in my opinion will be more competitive than the 10v10 twink comp vs comp games we have now. In current games, the outcome can pretty much be decided upon zoning in. In these mixed BGs, it will be a challenge either way and it will require coordination to win unless you just get lucky and your team is organized and focused on destroying the other team. The avalanche affect will not be as relevant as it is today where 1st cap nearly guarantees 3-0. You may get one cap, but you cannot expect to get the next, nor the one after that.
I guarantee 99% chance that if you started twinking before WOTLK, you started twinking because you encountered a twink. Today, the only way to gain new twinks is by the previous 1% which was vocal recruitment and is less effective and efficient than pure exposure.
How many times do you guys constantly hear "No way... 19 twinks still exist?" Every week? I know on Akama, I do several times a week. People don't even know about twinking any more.
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Jva
Legend
I give it one day before you mericas run into the next shop, buy a gun and start shooting little childrens
Allybeboba
Legend
I cannot speak for the others, but I am unfarmable. As I won't rez over and over again again like some people do just to be mindlessly camped. I find that time is perfect for ghost walking to find new and exciting jumping opportunities. You see, I make an effective use of my free time.
/cheers
You sure? Calling people grasshoppers and being fairly condescending is effective?
Allybeboba
Legend
And I give it one day before other countries are relying on America or American inventions. Whoops... That day has come to pass a long long time ago....
And back to topic... [MENTION=6446]Mocha[/MENTION] the issue with many people here on TI, especially in the 10-19 bracket, is they like the feeling of being BMOC. As the "pool" gets larger they seemingly get smaller, and it frightens them and their epeen. That is why we constantly see these "lists" and "look at what I've done" threads. Or "rate my twink" threads. Or even "rate my mog". And then they get upset when you give them criticism on their toons. Many member of TI cry out for attention. They want to be special snowflakes. If the pool of players somehow becomes larger they will still be special snowflakes but some are afraid their specialness will go unrecognized. Thus their epeen meter may suffer. And they can not afford for that to happen!
And then there are the few of us don't give a flip about epeen. We just want games. After all, this is a game isn't it? If I wanted "competition" I would not play a computer game for relaxation. I have other hobbies for "competition".
/cheers
/cheers
Allybeboba
Legend
You do realize what I mean by grasshopper don't you, grasshopper? If not, then I am correct in my assertion.
It is not demeaning.
/cheers
Phrontistery
i was making waves u was surfing in 'em
two /cheers?
new meta?
new meta?
OP
OP
Conq
Guest
I think for many 19s the idea of striving for perfection seems appealing, which is encouraged by our culture, I think for some of us this extends to other aspects of our lives.
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Allybeboba
Legend
Perhaps at least one positive has come from the game. I shall take note of that.
OP
OP
Conq
Guest
I'd like to rephrase and say that it may extend to other aspects of our lives.
Allybeboba
Legend
I knew what you meant.
As in being very thorough. And min/maxing your final "product".
Unfortunately, the game really hurts a young person's social skills. I think that much is very evident.
/cheers
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Barbarous
Grandfathered
please cite your source!
