What scores matter to you? & Why?

Scoreboard (multiple choice)

  • Total voters
    94
Status
Not open for further replies.
Mightybit said:
- you can get high numbers just by healing gy campers.
Click to expand...

Honestly. I'm all for camping. The game was meant to be competitive when it comes to cross faction PvP, We're meant to want to crush Allies and Horde. So I go with it. I don't let people farm, in the event of my horde team farming Alliance, It makes my job of capping and returning flags/ending the game, easier. But I don't sit next to them and bitch about it the entire time.

Pretty much MarzRider's post. I like winning. If we camp to win, so be it, we won. (No way implying that MarzRider is okay with GY camping)

It's not like Alliance doesn't do the same thing. Chivalry is dead amongst the players of this game, If you don't do it in this battleground they'll do it the next.

In the event that my team gets camped by alliance, I just /afk out, get on a different toon or do professions for 15 minutes. Instead of sitting around mindlessly drooling in the graveyard, respawning over and over to feed the Alliance honor. If it were common practice to just stop spawning every time the other team started farming, No one would farm anymore because no team would devote that many resources to sit outside of a graveyard. You'd see "Hey lets farm them" followed by "They'll just stop spawning, cap the flag" more often.

Miacon said:
Team strategy & tactics > scoreboards.

Someone could have high damage, but has been constantly attacking low priority targets, or has been mindlessly attacking someone who is getting healed up the ass. Killing blows can be sniped, so don't really mean much. Healing done doesn't take into consideration the huge amount of damage priest bubbles can absorb, which is lame. Flag caps and returns are somewhat useful, but often don't give full credit to everyone involved with achieving those objectives. Same can be said for AB base assaults and defences.

The way I see it, the scoreboard is a very rough indication as to how players have participated, but is far from the be-all end-all.
Click to expand...

I agree completely, it's just not the point of this thread.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Miacon said:
So my post about bg scoreboards isn't relevant to this thread about bg scoreboards? Lol...you're seriously splitting hairs on that one. TI makes me laugh sometimes. :rolleyes:
Click to expand...

I said I agreed with you, Implying that anyone with common sense and general know-how is on the same page with you. But that simply the topic is about what scores people think matter, out of the scores listed. I didn't list a "Things that aren't even currently Battleground scores" option because it's not on the scoreboard in BG's,

So when it comes to the point of this topic, your post doesn't count, but I agree with it.

Twink info makes me laugh sometimes too, because as a person of common sense I keep finding myself having to tip toe around peoples insecurities and overstate things just so that I don't hurt anyone's feelings or get a backlash in order to be able to even post guidelines within my own topic, much less in any other topic.

It's my fault though, I'm sorry I offended you. The next time I reply to anyone I'll know to prepare my umbrella for the shit storm that will follow.

And now ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og1QRtcWdEY[
 
Last edited by a moderator:
La'Haryl said:
I said I agreed with you, Implying that anyone with common sense and general know-how is on the same page with you. But that simply the topic is about what scores people think matter, out of the scores listed. I didn't list a "Things that aren't even currently Battleground scores" option because it's not on the scoreboard in BG's,

So when it comes to the point of this topic, your post doesn't count, but I agree with it.

Twink info makes me laugh sometimes too, because as a person of common sense I keep finding myself having to tip toe around peoples insecurities and overstate things just so that I don't hurt anyone's feelings or get a backlash in order to be able to even post guidelines within my own topic, much less in any other topic.

It's my fault though, I'm sorry I offended you. The next time I reply to anyone I'll know to prepare my umbrella for the shit storm that will follow.

And now ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Conway Twitty;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og1QRtcWdEY[
Click to expand...


I recognize that asshole-ness anywhere. Anyways I still think other things could be kept score of to keep people much more productive. Some more examples would be time spent near an FC, EFC or next to a flag in AB. And Ben go as dar as feeding honor/min for staying so close.
 
Haha. Wow. I tell someone that their post goes against the point of the topic, they start shit over it and now I'm an asshole. Only on twinkinfo.

kthx
 
It's another great idea, Actually, I think your flag carrier should give you the honorable defender buff, and so should being near the EFC, something to keep people out of mid.

But as I've said, it kind of averts the point of this thread. It's on topic, but the point of the thread is to find out what Statistics matter to the community in the current scheme of things and why. I made this topic to see how people react to what they see in game. What lines need to be crossed for flame wars in BG chat to start so that we can try to better educate players and focus on the task at hand rather than the scores in general.

If we know what people aim for when they BG, we can use that and apply it to objectives so that it makes sense to people who don't always necessarily play objectively and maybe encourage them to.
 
I don't focus too much on stats in game. If I even look at the scoreboard before I leave the BG, I may just quickly glance over my rough ratio of damage to KBs to kind of critique the way I played. Obviously, KBs can be a bit random, but if I have an abnormally high amount of damage paired with low kills, then I was usually either not CCing enough or focusing too much on CC instead of just nuking a healer. Maybe if I think of it, I'll take a look at how many KBs the holy priest that occasionally follows me around ninja'd with Chastise. Other than that, I keep recount running with Healing Received showing, so I know when to thank my healers for carrying me.

Its pretty tough to put team contributions into numbers though. In terms of things I'd like to see on the scoreboard, damage done to targets within X yards of a Flag Carrier could be somewhat useful, but even something like that wouldn't show a complete picture (for example, catching the only enemy healer in mid before they can assist their FC or a group on offense). Absorbs being counted would be pretty sweet, too. And maybe the percentage of enemy LoH's that I immediately follow with a /lol?
 
To correct how the game is played, it should based upon points. And for every say 100 points you get 1 honor at the end of the battleground.
 
flag caps is the only thing that proves you made an effort to be on task, but it doesn't tell the whole FC story
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Flag returns and caps are clearly the most important statistics, I'd say, as they do generally give an indication of someone's play-style; and moreover they can be only improved by playing the game, and only by playing to objective. While not indicative of any personal skill, I do also value HKs as a more general measure of dedication--also, comparing someone's HKs to their number of caps and returns can help to give an idea of the sorts of games they tend to play.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
the problem with flag returns is that one guy gets credit for a team effort. if a rogue/hunter/mage combo are working together on task and getting returns, most likely, it's the rogue that gets the return
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Top