EU+US What do you think so far?
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Zuro
Somalian Pirate Crew
@Trollguden A new yt channel O: ?
Blizzard fucked the ui and random other fuck ups. Not enough ppl play healers. Av is good. I just want to know what are the new good fc specs?
Blizzard fucked the ui and random other fuck ups. Not enough ppl play healers. Av is good. I just want to know what are the new good fc specs?
Nodoka
Contributor
Your mom.
Zuro
Somalian Pirate Crew
Boring transgender cunt. Come up with something better or shut the f uck up.
Nodoka
Contributor
How rude, please develop some manners.
OP
OP
Trollguden
Jøldal Förebild
Yeah, new channel for legion and onwards. A little bit more mature than my previous channel that now is the nostalgia channel. 29s and 39s only. Will link it as soon as I'm back from vacation with a new computer.
FourCornersStance
Grandfathered
Pros: Most specs at our level got revamped.
Most are very viable, as long as they can hit stuff.
Warrior is fun (at least as arms) yay overpower
Pops are fast
ilevel template is good for the most part.
cons: can't hit 29's for crap.
most specs while revamped have gotten easier to play (survival returning to it's cataclysmic roots as being braindead. Boomkin at 29 being retarded to fight against even though they have no real healing but being able to spread hard hitting dots 200+ damage/tick. Disc being a pain in the butt and they took purge away.)
Burst damage is higher than before I feel like. I can watch half of my team eat dirt while halfway through a 1.4s heal.
No level scaling.
All in all, just so i can avoid the stupid need to hit things with abilities, i'll be playing MW monk and Resto shaman exclusively now. 7/10 pre-patch
Most are very viable, as long as they can hit stuff.
Warrior is fun (at least as arms) yay overpower
Pops are fast
ilevel template is good for the most part.
cons: can't hit 29's for crap.
most specs while revamped have gotten easier to play (survival returning to it's cataclysmic roots as being braindead. Boomkin at 29 being retarded to fight against even though they have no real healing but being able to spread hard hitting dots 200+ damage/tick. Disc being a pain in the butt and they took purge away.)
Burst damage is higher than before I feel like. I can watch half of my team eat dirt while halfway through a 1.4s heal.
No level scaling.
All in all, just so i can avoid the stupid need to hit things with abilities, i'll be playing MW monk and Resto shaman exclusively now. 7/10 pre-patch
Shockadingle
Legend
I think, overall, if they bring back level scaling, this patch will be better than WoD.
The removal of enchants is a good thing. ("Better," for me, means more balanced, skill-based competitive play.)
Disc priest is still way better than every other class, but that was the same in WoD; it's a problem, but not a new one.
There are a lot of pros and a few cons, (outside of the lack of level scaling, which IS a bracket killer IF they don't fix that, BUT they probably will.)
But the main problem in WoD was competing with 29s, certain 29 classes: the 29 BM's Guard ability and the 29 Warrior with Crusader buff. Also the wind walker stun was overpowered. ALL of those problems have been ameliorated. BMs lost Guard, if I'm not mistaken. WW lost the full to zero health stun. Warriors lost crusader in pvp. But the WW and War are still both very viable strong classes.
If they bring back level scaling, I predict 20s will be far more competitive with 29s in both arena and bgs than they were in WoD. The 20 and 29 ladders will be more mixed, and everybody will have more fun.
If your current or favorite class feels less competitive, it may be time to branch out and try other classes. New meta. I have mained 6 different classes for long periods of time since F2P WoW was introduced, and they were all fun.
Of course there are, and will be, balance issues and bugs. Some classes will not be competitive. Everybody will end up playing 4-5 classes, same as before, just different ones. But that's always been the case.
A reminder: When WoD first came out, they introduced level scaling in bgs, but it did NOT work in arenas for a month or more, till they got around to implementing scaling in arenas too.
With this patch, they didn't mention anything about removing level scaling; if it were intentional, they would have mentioned it. We are currently in the expansion "pre-patch." I recommend giving them at least until the expansion itself goes live, or a month after that, to fix level scaling before abandoning the bracket completely.
The removal of enchants is a good thing. ("Better," for me, means more balanced, skill-based competitive play.)
Disc priest is still way better than every other class, but that was the same in WoD; it's a problem, but not a new one.
There are a lot of pros and a few cons, (outside of the lack of level scaling, which IS a bracket killer IF they don't fix that, BUT they probably will.)
But the main problem in WoD was competing with 29s, certain 29 classes: the 29 BM's Guard ability and the 29 Warrior with Crusader buff. Also the wind walker stun was overpowered. ALL of those problems have been ameliorated. BMs lost Guard, if I'm not mistaken. WW lost the full to zero health stun. Warriors lost crusader in pvp. But the WW and War are still both very viable strong classes.
If they bring back level scaling, I predict 20s will be far more competitive with 29s in both arena and bgs than they were in WoD. The 20 and 29 ladders will be more mixed, and everybody will have more fun.
If your current or favorite class feels less competitive, it may be time to branch out and try other classes. New meta. I have mained 6 different classes for long periods of time since F2P WoW was introduced, and they were all fun.
Of course there are, and will be, balance issues and bugs. Some classes will not be competitive. Everybody will end up playing 4-5 classes, same as before, just different ones. But that's always been the case.
A reminder: When WoD first came out, they introduced level scaling in bgs, but it did NOT work in arenas for a month or more, till they got around to implementing scaling in arenas too.
With this patch, they didn't mention anything about removing level scaling; if it were intentional, they would have mentioned it. We are currently in the expansion "pre-patch." I recommend giving them at least until the expansion itself goes live, or a month after that, to fix level scaling before abandoning the bracket completely.
Dramatized
Legend
By far the worst expansion, will probably end up quitting finally.
madhombre
Legend
endgame is shit, the only 2 twinkbrackets im intrested in (20s and 80s) are super boring, the only class i recently enjoyed (mistweaver) is revamped and now super boring, my fps went down to 10-20 (while i had 30-40 during wod) because of these shitty new super animations (who needs content if you have cool animations like every single fucking asian mmorpg)...
but hey, im glad some of you still enjoy it.. even though i cant understand how
AlisterCrow
Grandfathered
It's 29 or go home atm and idk if they'll ever bring back level scaling, but if they do this bracket will be more competetive than it has been for the past two expansions. I've been playing MM at 29 and will soon level a destro to 29. Combat no longer lasts 2-3 seconds when you open which is exactly the fix I wanted for this bracket.
It's a shame 20s are so handicapped right now because if they weren't, they would see how balanced 26-29 characters are against each other. I see 20 droods and rogues in stealth all the damned time and the extra abilities I have at 29 allows my hunt to beat 20 locks/mages/druids etc......can hold off disc priests long enough for backup to come.
It's a shame 20s are so handicapped right now because if they weren't, they would see how balanced 26-29 characters are against each other. I see 20 droods and rogues in stealth all the damned time and the extra abilities I have at 29 allows my hunt to beat 20 locks/mages/druids etc......can hold off disc priests long enough for backup to come.
SPQR
Legend
Enjoying better fps with new improved settings.
Enjoying randomness of bgs.
Enjoying bm hunter.
Enjoying av's pops
Enjoying pictures of myself.
Enjoying healer being able to outheal only 1 person at the time.
Enjoying mobility cuts on classes.
Not enjoying lack of scaling and pleb rogues sneaking up on me with my skilled stealth tracking on.
Enjoying randomness of bgs.
Enjoying bm hunter.
Enjoying av's pops
Enjoying pictures of myself.
Enjoying healer being able to outheal only 1 person at the time.
Enjoying mobility cuts on classes.
Not enjoying lack of scaling and pleb rogues sneaking up on me with my skilled stealth tracking on.
Reltney
Legend
This is an understatement. Damage is higher than its ever been in this bracket. The fact that they removed level scaling and baseline resilience tells me that they never even bothered to test anything other than max-level PvP.
Luplis
Legend
This expansion is the worse travesty I've ever played. The new animations are awful and they've ruined the unchecked version of the 'Show New Character Models'. The old models really aren't the old models anymore. We are wearing f*ucking white gear. Collecting for the appearance tab and having them 'account-wide' are not cohesive. Trinkets, enchants, and any kind of procs/CoH are disabled in instanced PvP. Seeing Deadman's Hand greyed out makes me sad. We can no longer queue 2's and 3's specially for skirmishes. I hate the Honorable Medallion addition.
The fact that I need to grind out two Hook of the Master Angler for BiS so I can have a higher level is ridiculous. I'm PvPing and I'm wearing a f*ucking fishing trinket.
I hate it all. Legion actually makes WoD look crisp and clean, even with the BMs and ferals with their shrink rays.
I'm glad some people are able to find that the game is more balanced for them. But I can't stand to log on my 29s anymore. Never thought I'd see the day when this game is so painfully awful I second guess whether I want to log in at my character screen.
The fact that I need to grind out two Hook of the Master Angler for BiS so I can have a higher level is ridiculous. I'm PvPing and I'm wearing a f*ucking fishing trinket.
I hate it all. Legion actually makes WoD look crisp and clean, even with the BMs and ferals with their shrink rays.
I'm glad some people are able to find that the game is more balanced for them. But I can't stand to log on my 29s anymore. Never thought I'd see the day when this game is so painfully awful I second guess whether I want to log in at my character screen.
Dramatized
Legend
Preach
Lil
SV huntard
My .02
Top to bottom this bracket is the most imbalanced it's ever been. I can't believe how many delusional/trolling 29s I've seen call this balanced atm. If half the bracket misses 20-30% of their attacks against you there's an issue. However I have a feeling that'll be fixed here soon with scaling reimplemented.
Class disparity is the best I've seen in awhile which is great.
OPNess is still there cuz it always will be but there areally more God mode classes like BM/Feral which is great.
Queues are sub 10 min all day with EVERY bg popping which is great. Loving these mid fight AVs just for the nostalgia feel.
Two things I'd like to address. The gear and the competitiveness..
Unless you were a F2P who had to level let just to get the +1 armor then chanting to get +1 steam please shut up since you have no idea what GRINDING out BiS really means. Leveling to 20/29 then being 1/2 way BiS from boas then the other 1/2 coming from BoE items you bought from the AH requires no work. Just because we're wearing white items or "junk" means nothing. They're still BiS and still makes us twinks. Throw in your vanity set while in GS if you'd like.
Now for competition; if you played a 29 on horde and/or mostly premaded vs pugs on goes in WoD please don't talk to me about how much you miss competition. Setup RiD if you'd like to get ultra competitive. Nail biter Pugs are slightly harder to come by in legion but we also have twice as many games.
Legion has potential for greatness. Give blizz a chance to fix the minor things.
Top to bottom this bracket is the most imbalanced it's ever been. I can't believe how many delusional/trolling 29s I've seen call this balanced atm. If half the bracket misses 20-30% of their attacks against you there's an issue. However I have a feeling that'll be fixed here soon with scaling reimplemented.
Class disparity is the best I've seen in awhile which is great.
OPNess is still there cuz it always will be but there areally more God mode classes like BM/Feral which is great.
Queues are sub 10 min all day with EVERY bg popping which is great. Loving these mid fight AVs just for the nostalgia feel.
Two things I'd like to address. The gear and the competitiveness..
Unless you were a F2P who had to level let just to get the +1 armor then chanting to get +1 steam please shut up since you have no idea what GRINDING out BiS really means. Leveling to 20/29 then being 1/2 way BiS from boas then the other 1/2 coming from BoE items you bought from the AH requires no work. Just because we're wearing white items or "junk" means nothing. They're still BiS and still makes us twinks. Throw in your vanity set while in GS if you'd like.
Now for competition; if you played a 29 on horde and/or mostly premaded vs pugs on goes in WoD please don't talk to me about how much you miss competition. Setup RiD if you'd like to get ultra competitive. Nail biter Pugs are slightly harder to come by in legion but we also have twice as many games.
Legion has potential for greatness. Give blizz a chance to fix the minor things.