Was just wondering...

You didn't really come here to improve the bracket, did you?

It's been 9 pages now of elitist 19s calling out a bracket for adapting.

If you don't want a discussion, as I have repeatedly and calmly asked for, than I can only presume your insistence is based on principles that cannot be verbalized.

The only side avoiding the topic in question is yours. You don't get to sit on your asses and have 10 man groups message you in skype ready to game on. That's not how this works. If you want games, lobby for games. Explain yourselves and your positions clearly. That, so far, has not been tackled. Instead you sit comfortably behind your keyboards and make snide remarks.

Kincaide says you're different, but I'm thoroughly unconvinced at the moment. I see a 19.
 
You didn't really come here to improve the bracket, did you?

It's been 9 pages now of elitist 19s calling out a bracket for adapting.

If you don't want a discussion, as I have repeatedly and calmly asked for, than I can only presume your insistence is based on principles that cannot be verbalized.

The only side avoiding the topic in question is yours. You don't get to sit on your asses and have 10 man groups message you in skype ready to game on. That's not how this works. If you want games, lobby for games. Explain yourselves and your positions clearly. That, so far, has not been tackled. Instead you sit comfortably behind your keyboards and make snide remarks.

Kincaide says you're different, but I'm thoroughly unconvinced at the moment. I see a 19.

Why are you referring me as an "elitist 19"? I'm honestly sick of your shit Bop.

You assume as if you know fucking everything about us on Ursin, when you honestly don't know shit about us. None of us were known as any fucking elitist in the 19's bracket.

Please stop posting in my thread Bop.
 
I think you're missing the point. I want these games to happen as much as Atwanta does.

The only way you're going to get teams of 10 hardcore Starters is if they know that 90% of the game isn't dependent on hunter dps. Swift pots alleviate some of that pressure by allowing quick corrections in positioning.

"Hunters can swift pot too" - please read page 7, in which that topic is addressed. Also, the above paragraph.

So I suppose I could simply "not play them" - but that's the ultimatum that is boring and not beneficial to the bracket. Being beneficial to the bracket, as I understand it, is the sole goal of this enterprise on Ursin.

So let's work together and talk about what can / cannot work. Instead of being put immediately on the defensive by bracket-specific ideas for balance.

Both teams can use hunters, so it makes no difference

I also recall you saying hunters weren't that "dangerous" in another thread

Its fair if neither side uses swift pots, its also highly unlikely for all 20 players to have the swift pot recipe anyway
 
You didn't really come here to improve the bracket, did you?

It's been 9 pages now of elitist 19s calling out a bracket for adapting.

If you don't want a discussion, as I have repeatedly and calmly asked for, than I can only presume your insistence is based on principles that cannot be verbalized.

The only side avoiding the topic in question is yours. You don't get to sit on your asses and have 10 man groups message you in skype ready to game on. That's not how this works. If you want games, lobby for games. Explain yourselves and your positions clearly. That, so far, has not been tackled. Instead you sit comfortably behind your keyboards and make snide remarks.

Kincaide says you're different, but I'm thoroughly unconvinced at the moment. I see a 19.

It's pretty clear, judging solely based upon the thread up to this point, that he did not come here for some abstract bettering of the bracket. It's also pretty clear that he didn't come here for a discussion. What is patently clear is that he came here to issue a premade challenge to anyone who wishes, and is able, to accept. I'm not sure why all of these other ideas have to come in to it?
 
Looks like a really fun initiative! Like has been said before a million times, getting the same pop for every group will be hard, but I believe it's achievable. Hope you find another team to face soon!

Also, I'd just like to note that it doesn't really make sense what someone mentioned "warriors and rogues should have movement speed increasing cds too!" I just read through all the 9 pages so really can't remember or can't be arsed to go look back to see who it was, but you do realize that hunters + druids for example would be speedpotting for 240% speed, but warriors/rogues would only get 150% with speedpot? Kind of ruins the point of having it more fair when warrs/rogues can use speedpots too :p Just my 2 cents, again GL for finding an opponent!
 

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