Warlords of Draenor Changes for F2P
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Xenophon
Legend
Averagely geared?
Without AGM, I think most of my DPS toons in BoAs and blues are 1800-2100 HP unscaled. Will try to check if PTR is back up tonight.
AGM has 11 stam (12 on live) LFH 15 stam on both. Not sure if new PTR will change this.
Footman
Legend
It says that agility and intellect no longer provide crit, which I understand. Also it says that strength and agility will both provide 1 attack power... is this true for rogues? That strength will provide the same benefit as agility? Or am I missing something? Anyone with ptr able to check? Cause agility also provides no dodge, so therefore it seems the same as strength? Or does strength provide nothing for rogues now?
Bop
Remember the Treeline
Strength provides nothing for rogues.
Primary stats just became a lot more restricted, but now do a LOT more for each class.
Kincaide
Legend
Strength and agility do both provide attack power, just not for the same classes. You only get the benefit of an attribute if it's your class and spec's primary attribute.
Fael
Believer
How exactly?
raziel83
Legend
Just checkout out my beta p2p characters and you guys will be glad there are some nerfs (reducing the p2p - f2p gap). Aldor / scryer shoulder enchants got nerfed hardcore. My monk's shoulder enchant was +11 ap +8 crit (I think, something like that) and now it's +3 ap +2 crit. I read in those notes that a bunch of +armor enchants got nerfed. Including the f2p +10 armor to cloak (it's now +1).
Unfortunately my +90 armor to cloak is still +90 but since all the others got nerfed it's hopefully only a matter of time before it gets scaled appropriately.
All +mana enchants were reduced as well (not that it matters since no one can OOM anyway).
Sapphire spellthread is now 3 sp 3 stam (was 38 / 20)
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raziel83
Legend
Hmmm +24 armor kits and saying +3 armor in the tooltip but then actually giving +24 on gear. Probably safe to say that's getting nerfed.
No more +500 attack power P2P prots. Which is good since they were completely broken.
Elixir of minor defense is still + 50 armor (probably should stock up on these if your prot, that's 50 attack power).
No more +500 attack power P2P prots. Which is good since they were completely broken.
Elixir of minor defense is still + 50 armor (probably should stock up on these if your prot, that's 50 attack power).
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Rollop
Legend
Wow, this is good news if they are nerfing all of those p2p enchants.
raziel83
Legend
Ya and each character I login, I'm finding more and more nerfed p2p enchants.
Some are still unchanged and super powerful though. LIke crusader, still +100 str.
Rollop
Legend
Maybe... maybe blizzard does care :O
Vandiir
Legend
As for some enchants still being unchanged, some of those (like crusader) are vanilla enchants, and thus are less likely than post-vanilla enchants (burning crusade, wotlk, Cata, MoP, ...) to be squished, which should be squished given their respective contents they came from (like MoP, etc.) are also being squished.
That said, while it's still beta and stuff may/will still change, it maybe prudent to record those changes somewhere (like on your own spreadsheet of sorts), especially to make another one of these when WoD (or its pre-patch) becomes live.
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Upswag
Legend
It's more likely that because it's the PTR (ie: Player TEST Realm) that some of those are bugged. We need the next patch when those numbers are adjusted (probably after this patch comes out) to see the adjustments. Same for hybrids healing. Just wait. This happens EVERY SINGLE EXPANSION. PTR is not Live. It will never be live. 1/2 the things you see now may not and probably will not be in WoD.
Rollop
Legend
I don't see any sensationalist posts.
My question is are those squished chants nerfed relative to the rest of our squished numbers? As in they were OP before being squished and have been brought in line w/ what they were before. Or are they nerfed nerfed. Nerftacular. Nerf Herder. Nuuuuuuurrrrf. I think i'm having a stroke. .-.
Upswag
Legend
You missed the hybrid QQ? The "mages are the worst, give up now" posts? Or.. I mean look at your post...
Rollop
Legend
Eh? Still didnt see anything like "THE SKY IS FALLING" posts. It's like you walked into a quiet peaceful library and screamed "EVERYBODY RELAX, IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY" But nobody knew wtf you were talking about...