from reading all the posts, one thing is clear, yes Underground is lacking alot of core basics, Most of underground consists of players that never premaded and the players that have premaded haven't done so for a long time, also couple that with the such a large guild that hasn't truly been able to focus on organised game play for a long time now as most of our game play revolves around 4-5 people at a time pugging together to have fun.
Myrm has built a great home for alot of twinks. Its a home for the twinks that are looking to have fun. Not be elitist, which I believe Karmaz is an Elitist that believes his way is the only way. Which there is nothing wrong with that, everyone has a opinion as to what this bracket needs to do. Underground revolves around one concept. HAVE FUN.
Now those two premades were a push into realitiy for alot of the twinks who played for underground that night, alot of them felt they could run into a premade without ever being in vent and expecting to sync well, alot of them expected, such as Eliot, to be able to log onto a twink that they haven't played much and be premade ready. But to believe a guild that is as new and large as underground to come out into a premade and compete on the caliber of guilds that are elitist and full of twinks who are focused more around winning at all costs than just being laid back and having fun, is just naive.
With that all said, thanks for the constructive criticism, what resulted in this thread was just that a bond that was built in a premade to watch each others backs. a bond that can be built in a guild but really strengthened after winning a premade, even if it was a sloppy win, it was a win none the less. Not only that it was a premade 2 in one night and many more to come (I believe we already have 3 more premade nights lined up?) We posted the video not to teach players but to show the activity the 19 bracket is still capable of,