Viable classes
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Berlin
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TBF, a 29 resto is going to erase everything in the battleground-- even other 29s. But I get your point. The gap is significant for sure. Best thing to do is CC the shit out of them/focus them with the right numbers or else it's going to be a long daybecause the gap between 20s and 29s is way too big, so it doesnt matter what class you play since you'll flop either way.
a fully decked 20 in ilvl 87's has around 4.5-4.8k hp for reference.
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Bop
Remember the Treeline
It's a tough question to answer because you're asking for a meta check.
Nothing is viable in the sense that every class gets one shot by a decked out level 29 character. There isn't any meta. All of the cards in your hand have "You lose" written on them.
Are you asking from a hypothetical 20 wargame perspective?
Nothing is viable in the sense that every class gets one shot by a decked out level 29 character. There isn't any meta. All of the cards in your hand have "You lose" written on them.
Are you asking from a hypothetical 20 wargame perspective?
Nutsmite
Veteran
I believe retri with baron's blade can be viable. Haven't tested it yet in pvp as I'm in the process of gearing one, but your heal from blade gets stronger with each point of str and vers
Ginowski
Member
Im asking solely from the perspective that in the offchance im paired with other 20s will i be able to do some dmg?
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Sounds like barons blade is better than warforged weapon??
Bop
Remember the Treeline
Gotcha - for the three specs you mentioned (tests on pvp dummy and in duels):
Balance: damage will be middle of the pack. I didn't test Starfall in BGs because frankly you will get destroyed, but that might add up over a close game to be substantial. Your offheals are absolutely godlike, though. Better than a healer for the 4-5 casts before you oom. Your utility is nuts, especially now that Balance has Root/Beam at 20.
Retribution: damage will be above average, especially now that your kitable issue is better with Blessing of Freedom. Your offheals will be very good as well. Crusader aura is fun. Your utility with HoJ, Repentance/Blinding Light, Hand of Freedom, etc, is god tier.
Rogue: very low end damage (relative to other specs). The best crowd control utility in the bracket. You are everything that a rogue would ever want to be, minus the embarrassingly low damage potential.
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Bop
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They just see zero issue with Stormbringer? I get that it might not be making waves at endgame, but for literally any other part of the game they think that is okay?
Berlin
Member
The problem is that Resto Shamans are one of(if not the) weakest healers in end game pvp right now. Cdew basically said it's the weakest it's felt in years. I wouldn't be surprised to see Riptide and/or ES get a 15% buff with the damage talents remaining the same.
I think Blizzard was going for a design that sacrificed some healing for more damage abilities with Resto compared to other specs, but healing isn't where it's at right now. Good chance these Restos will be even stronger pretty soon here
I think Blizzard was going for a design that sacrificed some healing for more damage abilities with Resto compared to other specs, but healing isn't where it's at right now. Good chance these Restos will be even stronger pretty soon here
Nutsmite
Veteran
Absolutely, it has same ilvl as warforged and great utility. Also since its already epic if you want to minmax you just need socket proc, unlike rolling for warforged+socket drop from WoD dungeon. Unless you have blade with crusader applied, that beats socket drop
Hashbrowns
Legend
With such high magic damage, the ability to block and cut it in half with Holy Shield seems decent. Anyone tried prot pally?
Also Ember of Nullification does not work in BG correct?
Also Ember of Nullification does not work in BG correct?
shanker
OG
Vet20 res shams were rather powerfull in BFA, could with ease any 1 vs 1 in duels and BGs, shut down any healer. i recently took a BOA geared 20 res sham whose blues were from legion now at 12-16 level, with no ench, into WOD, BFA. its just blowing stuff up with ease. i was rather surprized and could imagine how they would be at 29
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cdew had to switch to another healer late BFA think druid? and maybe into SL. cdew had like a 8 year run with res sham, other influencers same with mages. for years AWC was near always res sham/f mage with warlock, the year a bal druid won in place of a mage, the spec was ganked hard by blizz
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cdew had to switch to another healer late BFA think druid? and maybe into SL. cdew had like a 8 year run with res sham, other influencers same with mages. for years AWC was near always res sham/f mage with warlock, the year a bal druid won in place of a mage, the spec was ganked hard by blizz
Loveto
Legend
I believe tank specs still take 50% increased damage baseline in pvp. Still though, skimming rated solo shuffle tank ratings, prot pallies are the only ones over 2,100 rating. At L20 though, one would be missing Improved Holy Shield, Blessing of Spellwarding, and Rebuke or BoP. Seems gimpy missing so many good talents at L20.
Yeah, cdew was using the kitchen sink in rdruid, mw, and hpally. Then hpriest in SL. But I think they always had problems due to mes staying with DK and trill with WW. When they were running double DH and double outlaw, those were entertaining. Sadly, blizzard rewards the same boring ass RMP/RMx for god knows how long. Anyways, yeah, rshaman looks to be the weakest in endgame at this time. But low level BGs, rshaman continues to be powerful.