EU+US Top Tier

[Goesid]

you're eu there might not be many shamans over there but there's a fuck load of them over here in US

edit: Also your main twink is a shaman are you telling me you have trouble killing warlocks?

I dont really see 'em on US either. Maybe a timezone thing.

No? Warlocks are up to 6 tiers below shaman depending on spec.

 

[Dform]

I see a lot of shamans, not many that are particularly great but the number of them is still fairly high

 

[Light]

you have to take account that some specs/classes could be higher tier with the right player.
for example: a frost mage could make a big impact on certain games and since f2p do not have the damage for most classes without enchant. utility would be key.

however.
this is f2p.

so the skill and experience must be assumed to be very low.
therefore making tier lists should be just based on damage. healing or movement speed. shit like that.

sure, an rsham can provide slows and kicks but your better off sticking to a priest who can prevent lots of damage with bubble and a solid linear heal casting. nothing to complex

 

[Light]

Just because you're a drunk and don't know how to bubble doesn't mean F2P skill and experience is low. Most F2Ps probably avoid people like you because they don't want to receive a 10 paragraph essay in spanish about "LF GF aged 12-14, must have skype"

all you did was insult me lol

but yeah f2ps are low skill. most of them are PvEr's lets be real

 

[Chops]

Plays one night of wargames:

but yeah f2ps are low skill. most of them are PvEr's lets be real

 

[Goesid]

The only thing you should be giving an opinion on is where to buy the cheapest nastiest alcohol. At least in that regard you'd be one of the most experienced in the bracket.

I imagine thats in prison. If hes looking for a 12 y/o gf I imagine he'll get there eventually.

 

[Goesid]

I imagine thats in prison. If hes looking for a 12 y/o gf I imagine he'll get there eventually.

Theres an Epstein joke about staying out of prison in here somewhere.

 

[Light]

Plays one night of wargames:

The only thing you should be giving an opinion on is where to buy the cheapest nastiest alcohol. At least in that regard you'd be one of the most experienced in the bracket.

My main has been f2p since catac.
I been wargaming in this bracket for a long time. don't talk about things you dont know.
anyone who didnt go vet by wod was not interested in keeping up with the bracket competition. thats just facts

 

[Leek]

Leg warriugh is shit tier
I cri

 

[Kincaide]

this is f2p.

so the skill and experience must be assumed to be very low.

Strange to say this, but in a way, Light is right about this. But not for the reasons I think he means. We have to remember that the vast, vast majority of people who are playing unpaid accounts are just regular shmoes who know nothing about twinking or this forum. The F2P twinks here, and the people who play them, are not the norm. The average F2P player -is- low skill. This is why we have to exercise a certain amount of patience in PUG games.

I realize that Light is trying to insult anyone still playing F2P without being badass enough to go Vet, but I'm redirecting that shit into something constructive.

 

[kiri]

Affli damage is far from the best, its pretty much their only flaw and its why they are tier 7.

Where the fk are you seeing shamans? Nobody plays shaman.

would you say locks are in the same or worse state than last time (WoD iirc) the F2P community proclaimed aff locks were shit ?
I think it was during the 20-24 days.

 

[Goesid]

would you say locks are in the same or worse state than last time (WoD iirc) the F2P community proclaimed aff locks were shit ?
I think it was during the 20-24 days.

Id say demo is better and affli, destro arent.

 

[kiri]

Id say demo is better and affli, destro arent.

damn never rly enjoyed low lvl demo, did rather like demo at end game in certain xpacs, when Felguard had stun/lolstorm to repay them pesky warriors with tho^^

But thx for the answer, Imma stay classic then

 

[hom]

damn never rly enjoyed low lvl demo, did rather like demo at end game in certain xpacs, when Felguard had stun/lolstorm to repay them pesky warriors with tho^^

But thx for the answer, Imma stay classic then

Demonology has some fairly impressive burst with felstorm which I'd rate as the best aoe damage in the bracket.

Affliction can spread their dots on everyone for some competitive top damage but their single target is lacking as it takes a fair amount of set-up. If you can go un-focused in a battleground you'll be able to pump 4-5 Unstable Afflictions on a target which can be devastating.

Destro pretty much sucks. Chaos bolt, even in my full vet gear with crit and versatility stacked only crits for 400-500 at a push. Also, less healing and mobility than the other specs.

 

[Counsel]

Destro pretty much sucks. Chaos bolt, even in my full vet gear with crit and versatility stacked only crits for 400-500 at a push. Also, less healing and mobility than the other specs.

I'd also rank destro 3rd. I felt like sacrificing haste for crit left me too open to interrupts. The upcoming change to nightfall might help affliction close the gap, but Demonology's felguard 10% healing debuff and empowered felstorm gets my vote for overall utility.

 

[Trialmop]

The bracket misses me and a few other people I see

 

[Conzil]

This is just my opinion, im not the best PVPer

 

[ohti]

You don't have enough tiers here, theres no way in hell WW is on the same level as affliction warlock, for example.

Also idk about arcane in top tier because they get kicked once, malfunction, and die.

 

[Conzil]

You don't have enough tiers here, theres no way in hell WW is on the same level as affliction warlock, for example.

Nothing in shit tier is worth playing, so doesn't matter if they are grouped together

 

[ohti]

Nothing in shit tier is worth playing, so doesn't matter if they are grouped together

Easily the boldest statement I've read all day