Top 5 class and spec in 20-29 Bracket

Zirano said:
That's not what we're discussing tho. In a realistic scenario a rdruid probably won't spend much more than 50 % of his time spamming dots. and a shaman can do the same dmg as that only spending 15 % of his globals to do basically the same dot dmg, this gives the shaman much more freedom to cast lava bursts, lightning bolts which provides more bursty dmg which can land essential kills and they can also push out more healing with the freed gcd's. and you're still trying to say that rdruid dots are superiors. you must be fucking delusional lol.

And I've already aknowledged that chainz had some good points as to why he consideres druids to be on par with rsham. All you've done so far is to spew nonsene and being in denial of how strong your class really is.
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The only time I spouted nonsense is when I quoted you. Anyway this is like a talking to a brick wall and I cant be bothered right now, maybe later.
 
Goesid said:
The only time I spouted nonsense is when I quoted you. Anyway this is like a talking to a brick wall and I cant be bothered right now, maybe later.
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You still havent replied at all to the point where a rdruid has to spend more than 3x the time to keep up the same dot dmg as a rsham. You're legit just avoiding the point because you know I'm right and you don't have a counter arguement.
 
Zirano said:
You still havent replied at all to the point where a rdruid has to spend more than 3x the time to keep up the same dot dmg as a rsham. You're legit just avoiding the point because you know I'm right and you don't have a counter arguement.
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Fine you get one more post. But after that I'm out I swear, probably.
I mean yes? But the druid can afford to spend much more time dotting because the druid has hot healing whereas shaman doesnt?

Also quick sidebar, trying to paint me as the bracket fotm reroller has to be most retarded position Ive ever seen someone take lol. Its right up there with Frozenwill saying the earth is 5000 years old.
 
Goesid said:
Fine you get one more post. But after that I'm out, I swear, probably.
I mean yes? But the druid can afford to spend much more time dotting because the druid has hot healing whereas shaman doesnt?

Also quick sidebar, trying to paint me as the bracket fotm reroller has to be most retarded position Ive ever seen someone take lol.
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I've never said you were a reroller? I just said it feels like you don't want to admit that you're class is really strong atm. It feels like it hits a senstive spot or something when people out your class as being a bit too strong atm. which in my opion it is.

And also yeah rdruids have hot healing but that doesnt change the fact that the shaman has way more freedom with how he can play. and what annoyed me about your original statement was that you made it seem like rdruids dots were so much better than rsham dot. which I've clearly proven it's not and it's rather the opposite.
 
Zirano said:
I've never said you were a reroller? I just said it feels like you don't want to admit that you're class is really strong atm. It feels like it hits a senstive spot or something when people out your class as being a bit too strong atm. which in my opion it is.
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It's your, not you're.
I've never said shamans weren't too strong. Anyone that has claimed it I've probably agreed with. I've said shamans aren't fotm and I stand by that.
 
Goesid said:
It's your, not you're.
I've never said shamans weren't too strong. Anyone that has claimed it I've probably agreed with. I've said shamans aren't fotm and I stand by that.
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Okay I had some bad grammar, i couldn't really care less. But it still seems like you're trying to avoid what I'm saying about the difference in dots and I'd like to know if you still stand by your initial statement that rdruid dots are superior to flame shock.
 
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Zirano said:
Okay I had some bad grammar, i couldent really care less. But it still seems like you're trying to avoid what I'm saying about the difference in dots and I'd like to know if you still stand by your initial statement that rdruid dots are superior to flame shock.
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It's couldn't, not couldent. Did I ever say that though? I got into this when you compared to flame shock to boomies but fine if I havent before I'll take a stance.

Resto druids dots are sometimes better than flame shock.

This is my last post, maybe.
 
Goesid said:
It's couldn't, not couldent. Did I ever say that though? I got into this when you compared to flame shock to boomies but fine if I havent before I'll take a stance.

Resto druids dots are sometimes better than flame shock.

This is my last post, maybe.
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Goesid said:
I love the comparison of druid and rsham dot uptime, 2 dots on no cd vs 1 on a 6 sec cd and they are compared as being equal. Thx guys was a fun read.
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Now it's starting to feel like you're correcting my grammar because you don't have anything left to say. And from a pure damage standpoint which is what you've leaned the most towards this entire discussion it's pretty obvious that rsham comes out ahead of rdruid as they have way more free globals which can be filled with single target damage spells in between heals. The fact that you're still trying to deny this must mean you truely are in denial. and if you actually read the posts going back and forth between me and chainz it was pretty obvious that we were comparing rdruid and rsham so I don't see where you got the boomy dots from?

Edit: nvm i read your intial post wrong but it still doesnt change the fact that the entire time the focus has been mainly on the 2 resto specs being compared
 
Zirano said:
and if you actually read the posts going back and forth between me and chainz it was pretty obvious that we were comparing rdruid and rsham so I don't see where you got the boomy dots from?
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I gave you the things balance and resto both share and the specific things they have.
 
All this jibber jabber and not one person reflecting on the fact that OP listed Elemental Shaman as the number two most overpowered spec in this bracket. Jizzus chrizzt, you guyz.
 
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Lebowski said:
All this jibber jabber and not one person reflecting on the fact that OP listed Elemental Shaman as the number two most overpowered spec in this bracket. Jizzus chrizzt, you guyz.
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Sounds like someone cant play elemental shaman
 
Goesid said:
Sounds like someone cant play elemental shaman
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I’m impressed you were able to deduce I’m unable to play Elemental Shaman because I pointed out that it’s silly to rank them #2 overall given the current meta in this bracket. Is that what you believe?

Are you an Elemental Shaman IRL or something? Why so edgy?
 
Lebowski said:
I’m impressed you were able to deduce I’m unable to play Elemental Shaman because I pointed out that it’s silly to rank them #2 overall given the current meta in this bracket. Is that what you believe?

Are you an Elemental Shaman IRL or something? Why so edgy?
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Elemental is clearly not 2nd best class overall but I do not know if there was an any order to his list and ranking elemental in the top 5 isnt silly.
 
Goesid said:
Elemental is clearly not 2nd best class overall but I do not know if there was an any order to his list and ranking elemental in the top 5 isnt silly.
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That’s fair enough — I was assuming the numbered list meant ranked 1-5, but that’s my assumption and possibly not what was intended. I still think it’s a bit of a stretch, but I’m currently leveling a Shaman strictly to give Elemental a go, so perhaps it’ll change my mind.
 
I dont think theres any call to put ele in the top five. But its not a terrible spec. It's strong for alot of the same reasons resto is and the clutch kill securing ability of earth shock is essentially a ranged execute.
 
Do people just forget that MW monk exists? Maybe one list mentioned them and their heals are nuts.. not to mention being able to burst someone down super fast with stacked up teachings of the monastery and potentially a reset rising sun? Also pretty okay mobility too
 
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