Shadowlands F2P Warrior Guide

[Chops]

Nice guide @Chops Planning on doing a PVE challenge anytime?

TY!

Crusader was enough of a pve challenge for me, lol. I dont see myself soloing dungeons any time soon, but finishing up loremaster/questing achievements is on my to-do list.

 

[Dragynslayer]

@Chops haha I hear ya man, very nice!

 

[Sergey]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=18722/death-grips?bonus=6710&ilvl=25 from Stratholme looks decent, I plan on using them if I get disarmed alot. Easy to farm too with a high level friend, boss can be killed in the first area when you enter.

 

[Chops]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=18722/death-grips?bonus=6710&ilvl=25 from Stratholme looks decent, I plan on using them if I get disarmed alot. Easy to farm too with a high level friend, boss can be killed in the first area when you enter.

I don't see a lot of value in giving up 2 slots to get disarmed for 3 seconds instead of 6 maybe once every 15 games. That said, I suppose its always helpful to have a tool bag of useful and unique gear.

 

[accel]

Great guide! Very informative and a really enjoyable read, too. (Although blood elf warriors are also quite cool, but whatever. Agree dwarfs of all types are the masters of this game.)

 

[mirrorbender]

Although blood elf warriors are also quite cool

 

[Warglave]

YEAH SO COOL THEY WERENT EVEN ORIGINALLY AN OPTION....

Dwarves really pull off the plate armor visual. Most important determining factor for sure.
(gotta give tauren/orc props on that too tho)

 

[Chops]

Great guide! Very informative and a really enjoyable read, too.

TY!

(Although blood elf warriors are also quite cool, but whatever. Agree dwarfs of all types are the masters of this game.)

Just assume I made a clever "Drake doesnt like/Drake likes" meme with this text on it. Im too lazy to actually do it this morning.

Dwarves really pull off the plate armor visual. Most important determining factor for sure.

lol a constant topic of convo. Dwarves really are R1 plate class. Though unless they've recently fixed orc and tauren shoulders, they've always sat a little high for my taste. They seem... off.

 

[Warglave]

Orcs have gigantically oversized shoulder armor, so that promotes a visual of power. Tauren too, to some extent.

Dont wanna derail the guide, but I guess it cant hurt to give visuals too.

Not 100% these sets are available f2play, so that definitely requires spoilerdom...

They do wear it well, IMO... plus dwarves can be horde yet so we cant all be R1 plate.

 

[Chops]

Dont wanna derail the guide

In all honesty, it just makes me want to include a "sick transmogs and where to get them" section.

 

[Dj3nka]

Not a big fan of of humans, lightforged and worgen being undervalued by casual content and low level bg/non rated players , twink or otherwise, especially on certain specs that can take alot of advantage out of them.

Both pandaren and elf's shadowmeld aren't getting enough attention either.
Would love to see more effort and strategy put in instead of bandwagoning and fotm guide followers.

 

[Chops]

lightforged

not available to F2P

humans

got love, running two trinkets is huge. Theyre also boring.

worgen

as mentioned, their sprint is easily countered by a CC and in a serious, hardcore, high end play... thats gonna happen. If anything worgen gets worse the more people are paying attention.

Both pandaren

"Pandaren - Underrated champ. You get double food buff, which is insane for those 10% stam buff foods. Plus you also Quaking Palm, which will sleep someone for 4 seconds and works as a blanket interrupt. Makes you a real nuisance to healers."

seems pretty complimentary

elf's shadowmeld

"But Shadowmeld? Now we're talking. It's an instant stealth that can be used in combat. Its not real useable as an actual stealth (you cant move) but it forces people targeting you to drop target. Which can work as a powerful interrupt on things like Chaos Bolt, Aimed Shot, etc. Whats better is if you Shadowmeld in the time between the end of the cast and the ability hitting, it'll still trigger the CD or the ability charge, wasting that ability. Very, very strong. Especially for arena play."

Unsure what guide you read that undervalued smeld, but...

fotm guide

I've been playing twink warriors since TBC...

 

[Asylum]

Would love to see more effort and strategy put in instead of bandwagoning and fotm guide followers.

huh?

 

[Dj3nka]

as mentioned, their sprint is easily countered by a CC and in a serious, hardcore, high end play... thats gonna happen. If anything worgen gets worse the more people are paying attention.

As can be said and should be done for everything else, including any impactful burst and cooldown. The utility it provides in key moments when it matters is highly undervalued.

Point 2. to be considered, in a casual and solo queue especially in this bracket that you are writing a guide for not many people will pay attention to these things. The majority of people in our bg will either be low effort or tunelvisioning whatever they're up to or casual levelers who dont even notice half of the important stuff. That has been pretty obvious for me thus far, especially on my worgen warrior i can almost count on my fingers when my speed buff has not been fully utilized its entire duration. Many things that are rock paper scissors on a forum here slide in real time bgs.

not available to F2P

That part is a bracket wide observation and a general comment.

huh?

People do not like to hear a negative comment but there is a general lack of strategic thought process across the board.
Alot of people are happy to follow a guide to a . and roll an easy or over-performing combination of class/race and chase an easy high stomping the opposition. The general lack of awareness and strategic approach by many twinks ive encountered thus far has been pretty evident.

My comment that i am not a big fan of how some things are when it comes to a big portion of the players stands, with reasons.

 

[Asylum]

there is a general lack of strategic thought process across the board.

care to elaborate? give examples?

 

[Dj3nka]

care to elaborate? give examples?

Not on the forum, there's plenty of smart players who write guides and theorycraft.
Battlegrounds that we speak of here right now on the other hand have a vast majority of people who put close to no thought behind covering their and their teams weakneses, objective and meta play, and everything else that makes a competetive or decent game apart from dmg and kill meter position on the list.

Not queuing with people you can confidently rely on is more often than not very disappointing.
Most games at least in EU i've played right now and before have been one sided stomps that shouldnt have been if there was at least some organisation on the opposite side. There havent been many good games with close calls and good play.

I have my fair share of games when i go ape and screw around for fun or push the personal score when i feel like it. I'm not preaching shit. But the general feel of the games is not high quality. Dunno if you understand.

 

[Chops]

As can be said and should be done for everything else, including any impactful burst and cooldown. The utility it provides in key moments when it matters is highly undervalued.

Its... the only on use racial that's completely negated by other players abilities though. Can you purge stoneform? interrupt a warstomp? somehow prevent WOTF? I suppose if you're super quick you can minimize a rocket jump but... ok. I'm pretty bearish on goblin warriors too.

I know you like Worgen (obviously) so I understand that you're upset with me not liking them as a choice for warrior. But that choice is informed by 12+ years experience on this class, playing everything from sweaty RBGs to twink wargames to casual friday night pugs. I don't think the sprint is valuable and it gets less valuable the more skilled your opponents are.

Not on the forum, there's plenty of smart players who write guides and theorycraft.
Battlegrounds that we speak of here right now on the other hand have a vast majority of people who put close to no thought behind covering their and their teams weakneses, objective and meta play, and everything else that makes a competetive or decent game apart from dmg and kill meter position on the list.

Not queuing with people you can confidently rely on is more often than not very disappointing.
Most games at least in EU i've played right now and before have been one sided stomps that shouldnt have been if there was at least some organisation on the opposite side. There havent been many good games with close calls and good play.

I have my fair share of games when i go ape and screw around for fun or push the personal score when i feel like it. I'm not preaching shit. But the general feel of the games is not high quality. Dunno if you understand.

ah, i see. you have some grievances that arent related to my guide. I'll ask you please stay on topic here.

 

[Dj3nka]

I know you like Worgen (obviously) so I understand that you're upset with me not liking them as a choice for warrior. I don't think the sprint is valuable and it gets less valuable the more skilled your opponents are.

There's nothing personal, dunno if you saw the 2nd point that i wrote before writing your own comment but i strongly believe and i have personally saw that there is a big lack of awareness and willingness to counter these things.

Most of the time most of us will solo queue and most of the time many things will slide in real "life" that are paper rock scissors in theory. The written strengths and weaknesses matter little when you can get away with stuff freely due to the low quality on the other side. You're expecting too much from people in your guides.

2nd thing to consider is utility (worgen sprint for example) even in high lvl play, there are many times when it can and does shine, especially in objective related moments.

 

[Asylum]

Not on the forum, there's plenty of smart players who write guides and theorycraft.
Battlegrounds that we speak of here right now on the other hand have a vast majority of people who put close to no thought behind covering their and their teams weakneses, objective and meta play, and everything else that makes a competetive or decent game apart from dmg and kill meter position on the list.

Not queuing with people you can confidently rely on is more often than not very disappointing.
Most games at least in EU i've played right now and before have been one sided stomps that shouldnt have been if there was at least some organisation on the opposite side. There havent been many good games with close calls and good play.

I have my fair share of games when i go ape and screw around for fun or push the personal score when i feel like it. I'm not preaching shit. But the general feel of the games is not high quality...

thank you for clearing it, the tone of your first few posts was a little vague, which is why i wanted clarification.

 

[Chops]

This quote

Not a big fan of of humans, lightforged and worgen being undervalued by casual content and low level bg/non rated players

would seem to imply that you think I'm not applying enough high level thinking to my assessment of worgens sprint. IE, the sprint is being undervalued by a non-rated player in casual low level BGs and that actually, Sprint is really good at the highest levels of play

But then this quote

Most of the time most of us will solo queue and most of the time many things will slide in real "life" that are paper rock scissors in theory. The written strengths and weaknesses matter little when you can get away with stuff freely due to the low quality on the other side. You're expecting too much from people in your guides.

seems to indicate that worgen sprint is good because we're all non-rated players playing casual low level content, and so you can get away with things that you otherwise wouldnt.

So youll have to pardon my confusion.