Shadowlands F2P Warrior Guide

[Dj3nka]

There's no need to try and make this personal as it hasn't been from the beginning. Most people will roll what the majority echoes is strong and not think much of it and undervalue what is strong.

seems to indicate that worgen sprint is good because we're all non-rated players playing casual low level content, and so you can get away with things that you otherwise wouldnt.

The vast majority either ignores or lacks awareness to counter or stop what is going on and the strength of this racial in this bracket in real time as it is is much greater than you and most give it credit. Theory don't matter when it slides freely 90% of the time vs casuals and provides alot of mobility to a melee class that does alot when it gets to keep itself on the target.

 

[Chops]

There's no need to try and make this personal as it hasn't been from the beginning

im not

The vast majority either ignores or lacks awareness to counter or stop what is going on and the strength of this racial in this bracket in real time as it is is much greater than you and most give it credit. Theory don't matter when it slides freely 90% of the time vs casuals and provides alot of mobility to a melee class that does alot when it gets to keep itself on the target.

Like I said, the racial loses value the more talented your opponents are. We seem to agree here as you acknowledge this racial is only worth anything is if you're using it to steamroll levelers that arent paying attention.

Its just not as good for a warrior as other racials, Im sorry. You're free to disagree and play worgen warrior. Im all for underpowered class/race combos because hey... wargames arent coming down to a warriors racial usage anyway, might as well play what you like and makes you happy.

But that doesnt change my assessment of the ability.

 

[Dj3nka]

You're starting from a POV that suggests that the opposition is talented to a point that the racial is losing its value the "higher you go" or increasing over time because people are/get better and theory-crafting on the forum when the reality on the field is anything but. It is saddening that this is the fact but it is what it is.
The amount of times when someone deliberately did something to the darkflight just because it is the darkflight and it is on is low to a point that i can use it without worrying about it. I play one in this bracket.

That is the reality of the 20s bracket and no mental gymnastics can change it. There is more value in it than it is given credit. Much more.

 

[Chops]

You get a cool sprint on a 2 minute CD. Darkflight gives a 40% movement speed increase for 10 seconds. Strong gap closer I suppose, until you get trapped/stunned/feared for the duration. But hey, if they're dumb as hell you'll get some use out of this.

The amount of times when someone deliberately did something to the darkflight just because it is the darkflight and it is on is low to a point that i can use it without worrying about it. I play one in this bracket.

Seems like we agree! Good news!

 

[Dj3nka]

Well the thing is that you're suggesting that if they're dumb or bad you might get some use out of it.
What i'm saying is that the reality on the field is that there is a shitload of use most of the time to a point that is great value and its not getting enough credit as it deserves as things are right now.

Dont play Worgen.

Unstable affliction makes the dwarves a suicide button race. We can do this whole day.
There are many situations where each is highly usable, to say that is not ok.

 

[Kaxle]

Dwarves are for people too scared to go full gnome

 

[Chops]

Well the thing is that you're suggesting that if they're dumb or bad you might get some use out of it.
What i'm saying is that the reality on the field is that there is a shitload of use most of the time to a point that is great value and its not getting enough credit as it deserves as things are right now.

That would be because most levelers are dumb and/or bad (as are a lot of us twinks!)

Which is something else we both agree on...

The vast majority either ignores or lacks awareness to counter or stop what is going on

I think, perhaps, you're just misreading some humor.

Dwarves are for people too scared to go full gnome

duel me irl

 

[Asylum]

duel me irl

be prepared for kaxle-mogs IRL, though.

 

[Chops]

be prepared for kaxle-mogs IRL, though.

I own a kaxle mog irl...

 

[Asylum]

I own a kaxle mog irl...

incorrect! it doesn't NOT match...

 

[Sergey]

Yo, great guide! Which meta gem do you recommend, https://www.wowhead.com/item=32410/thundering-skyfire-diamond or https://www.wowhead.com/item=32640/tense-unstable-diamond?

 

[Grymvet]

Just out of curiosity for us Vet accounts that do have access to all the allied races. How do they rate?

 

[Counsel]

Just out of curiosity for us Vet accounts that do have access to all the allied races. How do they rate?

I can only speak for Vulpera, and it rules.

 

[Chops]

Just out of curiosity for us Vet accounts that do have access to all the allied races. How do they rate?

My short take on allied races is:
Play Dark Iron or Lightforged if you're ally
Play Highmountain or Vulpera if you're horde

Everything else is... eh? I mean, like. None of them are particularly *bad* but man, you can be dark iron or highmountain. Why would you even want to be anything else?

 

[Warglave]

Why would you even want to be anything else?

Cuz orcs looks cool.

And mechagnomes actually arent awful... I dont know if they still have a tiny hitbox issue thing or not, did they change it?

(but use a medium/big mount or you have to swim thru puddles... kinda lame)

 

[Chops]

And mechagnomes actually arent awful...

Ive only unlocked a handful of allied races, which is one of the reasons I didnt feel comfortable writing them up. The other is F2P > vet so... uh... allied races smell funny.

 

[PleumAngel]

I have a Mecagnome war and thier racials are useful for any class.

As for warrior they have a little 15% heal when you reach 20% below HP. Which can turn the tide if your hitting so hard. And as a frontliner can be useful.

Comabat anylasis is good for sustianed fight as you get 10 free strength combined that with 12 from alchemy flask that 22 free str.

Anyways disarm does magic agianst other wars.

 

[pokspell]

Pretty good guide Chops!
Quick question: what do you think about Malown's Slam on Warrior? (Arms and/or fury)
https://www.wowhead.com/item=13393/malowns-slam?bonus=6710

 

[Warglave]

The proc does not do anything... it shows a buff icon but doesnt grant the strength. As far as the stun, PvPeople will tell you to gtfo cuz it causes diminishing returns with other stuns in PvP. Of course, us not having a stun... it's nice to have.

It's fun in PvE, worth getting to make that impact anyway, IMO. Or even two...

 

[Chops]

Pretty good guide Chops!
Quick question: what do you think about Malown's Slam on Warrior? (Arms and/or fury)
https://www.wowhead.com/item=13393/malowns-slam?bonus=6710

Its what I refer to as a "gimmick weapon" in that its funny, but without the working strength buff I would never consider it. The loss of static str/stm and secondaries from other available weapons just isnt worth it for a stun that may or may not proc at a moment that may or may not swing a fight.

If the str buff ever works again, it becomes a poor mans destiny + stun and sure... whatever. Im not interested in having that particular conversation every month so we'll just go with "you do you"