Shadow Land alpha

Judging by the talent section on Wowhead it seems that 10 is going to be the cap for f2p. The final toolkit parallels more or less the level 20 toolkit (in that every spec gets their core mechanic/“rotation”).

BfA level 20 Prot Warrior:
Lvl 1: Devastate
Lvl 3: Charge
Lvl 5: Victory Rush
Lvl 10: Shield Slam
Lvl 13: Taunt
Lvl 14: Thunder Clap
Lvl 17: Heroic Throw
Lvl 20: Shield Block
Lvl 20: Vanguard

SLands level 10 Prot Warrior:
Lvl 1: Slam
Lvl 1: Execute
Lvl 2: Charge
Lvl 3: Shield Slam
Lvl 4: Hamstring
Lvl 5: Victory Rush
Lvl 6: Shield Block
Lvl 7: Pummel
Lvl 9: Whirlwind
Lvl 10: Mastery: Critical Block

If this is true then we'll no longer get access to a talent row. :(

EDIT: Oh, more evidence: Glyphs. Traditionally they haven't wanted F2P/Starter accounts to have access to cosmetic Glyphs and lo and behold, in SLands they will have a level 11 requirement.
 
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jackblood said:
Judging by the talent section on Wowhead it seems that 10 is going to be the cap for f2p. The final toolkit parallels more or less the level 20 toolkit (in that every spec gets their core mechanic/“rotation”).

BfA level 20 Prot Warrior:
Lvl 1: Devastate
Lvl 3: Charge
Lvl 5: Victory Rush
Lvl 10: Shield Slam
Lvl 13: Taunt
Lvl 14: Thunder Clap
Lvl 17: Heroic Throw
Lvl 20: Shield Block
Lvl 20: Vanguard

SLands level 10 Prot Warrior:
Lvl 1: Slam
Lvl 1: Execute
Lvl 2: Charge
Lvl 3: Shield Slam
Lvl 4: Hamstring
Lvl 5: Victory Rush
Lvl 6: Shield Block
Lvl 7: Pummel
Lvl 9: Whirlwind
Lvl 10: Mastery: Critical Block

If this is true then we'll no longer get access to a talent row. :(

EDIT: Oh, more evidence: Glyphs. Traditionally they haven't wanted F2P/Starter accounts to have access to cosmetic Glyphs and lo and behold, in SLands they will have a level 11 requirement.
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Prot Warrior PvP could be back, that Pummel looks juicy in the lvl 10 bracket ;)

I notice on Hunters Conc shot is now lvl 13, but it says we have Wingclip, so maybe Huntards getting some melee weapons back? But no interupt.

Could be Krystal’s time to shine in SL’s :D
 
icehawk said:
Prot Warrior PvP could be back, that Pummel looks juicy in the lvl 10 bracket ;)

I notice on Hunters Conc shot is now lvl 13, but it says we have Wingclip, so maybe Huntards getting some melee weapons back? But no interupt.

Could be Krystal’s time to shine in SL’s :D
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Looking at the current flow of spells, it feels like the top tier insanely OP classes are getting nerfed quite a bit. Arcane Mage loses Arcane Missiles, Fury Warriors loses Rampage. Outlaw loses the ability to trigger extra Pistol Shots, which I know was a big part of their lethality in Legion/BfA.

Unfortunately one of my fav specs, Subtlety, still sucks at Lvl 10 lol. Slice n' Dice does nothing for us that early without some kind of slow, like Pistol Shot. Womp womp. Monks getting Touch of Death and Paralysis that early though... Yikes.

This is going to be fun to theorycraft!
 
jackblood said:
Looking at the current flow of spells, it feels like the top tier insanely OP classes are getting nerfed quite a bit. Arcane Mage loses Arcane Missiles, Fury Warriors loses Rampage. Outlaw loses the ability to trigger extra Pistol Shots, which I know was a big part of their lethality in Legion/BfA.

Unfortunately one of my fav specs, Subtlety, still sucks at Lvl 10 lol. Slice n' Dice does nothing for us that early without some kind of slow, like Pistol Shot. Womp womp. Monks getting Touch of Death and Paralysis that early though... Yikes.

This is going to be fun to theorycraft!
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Shouldn't rogue have crippling poison by then? Poisons are back to being cross spec.
 
If anyone cares it looks like that at lvl 15 you can join the same 3 bgs that you can join right now.

https://imgur.com/a/gzcpJFQ

Id still need someone with an alpha that checks Groupfinder for bgs at lvl 10 before and after leaving exile's reach.
 
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idk how SL is going to be scaled but from what I've found on Shadowlands.wowhead.com 90 Mythic Siege of Org gear socket bonuses seem a bit OP. Gems as well seem a bit OP. the helm my 90 Mythic SoO twink is currently wearing would give me nearly as much str in SL as I do currently (just from socket bonus and gems). This means that each item is more-or-less the current power of my 90 twink? I will be 10 times as strong in SL?! Wod Raid gear has no sockets and Cata/lich socket have way lower values. https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/siege-of-orgrimmar#drops:mode=m:0-4-2

SoO is level 35. A 35 might be way stronger than lower brackets. Aren't sockets disabled in pvp? idk i don't pvp. I've only pve twinked since legion. Also some food for thought. It looks like LFR queue level requirements have dropped in SL. makes me think that LFR might make a comeback for older raids. I personally would love to be a god twink in a full LFR group doing 40%+ of the total dmg.

Important to note that items might not grandfather the way you'd want them to. The gear you obtain before SL drops might not retroactively update come SL. Still though if your like me and would rather have a set in case then go ahead and farm up your mythic sets now. Just remember to look at the gear again come SL in case vaules change.
 
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Emelia said:
idk how SL is going to be scaled but from what I've found on Shadowlands.wowhead.com 90 Mythic Siege of Org gear socket bonuses seem a bit OP. Gems as well seem a bit OP. the helm my 90 Mythic SoO twink is currently wearing would give me nearly as much str in SL as I do currently (just from socket bonus and gems). This means that each item is more-or-less the current power of my 90 twink? I will be 10 times as strong in SL?! Wod Raid gear has no sockets and Cata/lich socket have way lower values. https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/siege-of-orgrimmar#drops:mode=m:0-4-2

SoO is level 35. A 35 might be way stronger than lower brackets. Aren't sockets disabled in pvp? idk i don't pvp. I've only pve twinked since legion. Also some food for thought. It looks like LFR queue level requirements have dropped in SL. makes me think that LFR might make a comeback for older raids. I personally would love to be a god twink in a full LFR group doing 40%+ of the total dmg.
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Pve twinks for sure seem like theyre gonna be really fun. If xpon and xpoff are in same bgs, then thatll be a thing too, if not level 10 bgs haha
 
So basically all specs are now the same except for one (or two) level 10 spells. I don't know how to feel about that. Kinda kills spec individuality for F2P/Vets.
 
jackblood said:
So basically all specs are now the same except for one (or two) level 10 spells. I don't know how to feel about that. Kinda kills spec individuality for F2P/Vets.
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Yup. a handful of spells and mastery.

Though, looking through some of the gear we'll (in theory) be able to get through BFA dungeons, you could end up with a couple different build styles. So maybe a proc based fury warrior versus a static damage based arms warrior. A lot of the same abilities but a very different play style and feel.
 
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