Rogues... nerf pls
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Lil
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\/ Edit: oh ya and sry I don't premade with 4 other people every bg I go in.. Go do pugs as a dps then get them to plan cc on healers lol
^ if healers are impossible to 1v1 or 1v2 then everyone is going to roll a healer. Also not sure shift but if you main a Rdruid you have NO say lol I just played my dungeon geared Rdruid and it was lawl ez mode..
Really? So in those bgs last night you didnt go like combined like 15-2 with around 120k healing in like 3 bgs? sure It's total nonsense. Admit your OP and stop trying to pretend you aren't. I never lied and said i wasn't OP in cata but guess in MoP healers aren't OP at all.
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verh
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Healers should be impossible to 1v1 if you yourself can't heal yet, however rogues and hybrids (and frost mages, although from my testing the heal wouldn't work on myself) should be able to outheal their damage too. Basically you shouldn't be able to kill a healer and the healer shouldn't be able to kill you, 1v1.
The problem with healers now is denounce and priest damage, along with spirit scaling; rshams and rdruids are perfectly balanced around damage imo.
The problem with healers now is denounce and priest damage, along with spirit scaling; rshams and rdruids are perfectly balanced around damage imo.
potatoez
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No,Lilhunter,you said only a healer can kill another healer. I just pointed out ironically that it is impossible in mop lol.Healers don't die nowadays easily even if being attacked by another OP healer 
...The only problem with healers is their undending mana, but hopefully, this will be "fixed" soon. Spamming heals and never getting oom is too much
I never said that priests are not OP btw.I know that we are very strong now, and i pray that somehow our healing will be toned down. 1700 fols are just a bit too much indeed. But plz , ppl, don't over exaggerate and say that priests are more op than other healers. All healers have become demigods this expac
...The only problem with healers is their undending mana, but hopefully, this will be "fixed" soon. Spamming heals and never getting oom is too muchI never said that priests are not OP btw.I know that we are very strong now, and i pray that somehow our healing will be toned down. 1700 fols are just a bit too much indeed. But plz , ppl, don't over exaggerate and say that priests are more op than other healers. All healers have become demigods this expac
Shft
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I mained an rdruid in cata and I did just fine. The bracket to me is now unplayable after touching 85, and not because of the balance, but because 85 is just so much better in every way. Contributing to this is the complete reversal of how many 24s there are since I started. Back about a year ago, seeing a 24 was not a common sight at all and now a bg without 24s is unheard of.
It just makes me giggle that something like 30% of the alliance is going to have to learn to do something other than click explosive shot and press s.
It just makes me giggle that something like 30% of the alliance is going to have to learn to do something other than click explosive shot and press s.
Lil
SV huntard
Seeing 2-3 horde healers on avg in cata and 1-2 ally healers per bg compared to 5-6 horde and 3-4 ally healers each wsg I think speaks for itself.. I have been trying to defend my opinion to e1 that were arguing healers are "ok" where they are now or that they arent OP. The major jump in healers per bg is because this bracket goes for FotM classes (24 spriests.. enough said). Just like hunt and pally rush in cata now its the healers.
Hunters were always the class in cata to keep healers in check and now even with a hunts superior CC its pointless to try to kill a healer. Its like pick your poison as a DPS.. Target the healer and go nowhere or try to find a DPS alone and hope a healer doesn't come. For example.. earlier bg I had kibbles in my bg (a pretty good Rdruid that in cata would always push my limits in trying to stop from capping) and it was just sad.. Even if I got an aimed shot off then scatter immediately as soon as my next aimed shot goes off rejuv then swiftmend and back to 100% hp and I'm at like 15 focus.
If you mained a healer in cata fine.. You were always a healer and atleast you aren't a reroll. But if you find bgs fun atm on your healer then I guess cata was to hard for you (idk how as healers were in no way UP.. well compared to healers in MoP I guess they are) and now you enjoy being far more OP then any nonhealer.
My question ending this I guess: How many bgs in MoP can you honestly say you had fun or enjoyed on your healer
Hunters were always the class in cata to keep healers in check and now even with a hunts superior CC its pointless to try to kill a healer. Its like pick your poison as a DPS.. Target the healer and go nowhere or try to find a DPS alone and hope a healer doesn't come. For example.. earlier bg I had kibbles in my bg (a pretty good Rdruid that in cata would always push my limits in trying to stop from capping) and it was just sad.. Even if I got an aimed shot off then scatter immediately as soon as my next aimed shot goes off rejuv then swiftmend and back to 100% hp and I'm at like 15 focus.
If you mained a healer in cata fine.. You were always a healer and atleast you aren't a reroll. But if you find bgs fun atm on your healer then I guess cata was to hard for you (idk how as healers were in no way UP.. well compared to healers in MoP I guess they are) and now you enjoy being far more OP then any nonhealer.
My question ending this I guess: How many bgs in MoP can you honestly say you had fun or enjoyed on your healer
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SallyG
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I'll answer your question!
I'd enjoy healing a lot more if there were people worth healing in BGs. As it stands much of the DPS you encounter are Rogues who skey and don't kick, Locks who can't find fear for the life of them, Pallies who open with hammer and so forth. So I can honestly say I haven't enjoyed very many BGs on my healers.
I do enjoy killing healers on my Rogue though ^_^ Most of her BGs are enjoyable!
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potatoez
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My question is this; how many bgs in cata can you honestly say you had fun or enjoyed on your hunter?
Right now, my priest is boring because I have almost no challenge in bgs during the last 2 weeks. But you played throughout the cata expac (almost a year) on your hunter without remorse... even if it was clear that your class is op...so do you really have the right to judge/bash all healer rerolls?pot meet kettle
If you cannot solo healers anymore, that's perfectly normal.That's how things are going on at endgame right now. Please, browse wow forums, and you will see millions of threads with ppl whining about healers, demanding nerfs etc...Adjust, there is no other way.
The King is dead. Long live the King
P.S. No, Bgs are extremely boring now on my healer. That's sad.
Right now, my priest is boring because I have almost no challenge in bgs during the last 2 weeks. But you played throughout the cata expac (almost a year) on your hunter without remorse... even if it was clear that your class is op...so do you really have the right to judge/bash all healer rerolls?pot meet kettle
If you cannot solo healers anymore, that's perfectly normal.That's how things are going on at endgame right now. Please, browse wow forums, and you will see millions of threads with ppl whining about healers, demanding nerfs etc...Adjust, there is no other way.
The King is dead. Long live the King
P.S. No, Bgs are extremely boring now on my healer. That's sad.
Lil
SV huntard
Alot actually... I was in noway unstoppable and my actions were what showed the difference from me and other hunts. All healers seem the same now and those well known healers in cata really don't look anymore skillful then a new reroll healer in MoP imo. You're comparing cata hunts to MoP healers.. Cata hunts had healers to put them in their place but who puts MoP heals in their place (waits for answer).
Yes since I haven't ran to a healer with them being how they are and I wasn't like all those people who rerolled Hpal at the start. Amount of judging I got in cata for being hunt damn right I'm gonna judge rerolls in MoP (childish ik but idc.. fair) I forget what pot meets kettle means but if I never heard any complaining or never got judged in cata I would be a pot meeting the kettle (idk if this makes sense? lol). but obviously there was plenty of judging so now that those people who judged me are now running around on their reroll heals or old heals I'll judge right back
King isn't dead... King has just been transformed into a more powerful and unstoppable being.
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CripzBlood
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Please, browse wow forums, and you will see billions of threads with ppl whining about Hunters, yes they were OP but u cant say healer couldnt beat hunter be4, u just feel like that cuz when u were focus in healing a mate or on a enemy a hunter would come and burst u down but on 1vs1 its different,even rogue does more dmg now then hunter in Cata and i think with the OP heals in MoP... hunter and other classes shouldnt even be nerfed.
Why shouldnt a dps be able to kill a healer in 1vs1? i think its perfectly normal if dps uses well their cc.
Like iif u look at lvl85 or 90, dps´s can beat healers... it just takes alot of time. why cant dps´s beat healers at lvl20?
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MarzRider
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lols at the entirety of this thread .
why do people make threads like " ahmgggeeee nerfff dizzz " , i mean really do you honestly think commenting about it on a twink website will change anything? Are you trying to make yourself feel better because said class facerolled you .
IMO just deal with the way things are your winning wont change anything , play smart and have fun.
In conclusion instead of making pointless threads like this please post useful and fun things you find like a mob that when killed gives a buff or a fun vanity item like westfall stew.
why do people make threads like " ahmgggeeee nerfff dizzz " , i mean really do you honestly think commenting about it on a twink website will change anything? Are you trying to make yourself feel better because said class facerolled you .
IMO just deal with the way things are your winning wont change anything , play smart and have fun.
In conclusion instead of making pointless threads like this please post useful and fun things you find like a mob that when killed gives a buff or a fun vanity item like westfall stew.
Lil
SV huntard
Easy to say that after the fact when everything has already been said. I'm not a quiet person and I am opionative.. Hearing all through cata that I'm a fail or I can't play another class from the very people that rerolled heals once they got their superiority doesn't cut it with me lol
youakim
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Who exactly is acting superior? I don't see them
MarzRider
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The problem is, I AM SEEING the exact thing post after post after post when it comes to this topic.
People complain and give a reason
next person complains then restates the same reason in their own words.
I get tired of seeing 3 pages of the same thing.
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CripzBlood
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so u never complained about hunters?
It would be nice if everyone was like that(Not) then blizz would build the game alone without hearing the gamers opnion.
it doesnt matters if blizz see´s this or not, what matters is to let out the truth... somehow holypalas shock got nerfed and hunters and ret palas. and i bet u like those changes... they didnt make those changes cuz no1 alerted them.
Ik there is certain places where i can talk directly to blizz but its like millions of ppl doing that. so i prefer let my opnion here and see what the rest of the community thinks about it.
Lil
SV huntard
Meaning their superiority over other classes as in godmode.. My thoughts or what I'm saying isn't directed at the people in here (yet, sure some will join soon) it's to the bracket in a whole but the people who didn't complain 24/7 just happen to be only people replying
This seems familar... Maybe you know how I felt in cata as a hunt??
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CripzBlood
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Exactly they complained alot about hunter in cata and WoLK... and now they are saying that we cant complain about rogues or healers... funny.
Lil
SV huntard
To be fair most of the people replying aren't the people who complained... They didn't complain about us in cata so now that we have the right to complain about healers they believe we should be like they were in cata. In all honesty if healers weren't THIS op and I thought I had any chance vs a healer I wouldn't be complaining or saying this.. but everyone but healers complained about hunts in cata and now everyone can now complain about healers in MoP so now those cata healers are like wtf we never complained about you
verh
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No, they are saying that your complaints about rogues are unjustified (at least I was), and that healers aren't as ridiculous as people are portraying them to be.