Religion & God

[Eriwen]

I don't give 2 shits what people believe, I perosnally don't believe in shit and I don't care. Just don't shove it in my face.

If I was in charge of what's going on inside peoples head, I'd make sure religion never existed.

"And thus; Man created God"
"And thus; Muhammad and Abraham build a temple for another God"
"And thus; people got mad over which drunk story was most true"

 

[Yapah]

I don't give 2 shits what people believe, I perosnally don't believe in shit and I don't care. Just don't shove it in my face.

If I was in charge of what's going on inside peoples head, I'd make sure religion never existed.

"And thus; Man created God"
"And thus; Muhammad and Abraham build a temple for another God"
"And thus; people got mad over which drunk story was most true"

My skygod is better than your skygod so you deserve to die

 

[Trialkiller]

Well, thanks for the insult. It is fairly easy for me to just give you the argument, because i do not think i would ever explain it as better as it does. Even though..

You need me to explain the argument , alright, here it is.

I think we all agree that for everything to it that exist there must be a cause to it, where that's my own birth, or the computer that im typing rn. I know that it didn't just show up, there was a design, there were a lot of processes - That means that cause is intuitive. The universe, time energy and matter, they came in existence, in a finite time in the past. This means that there was a time that it had not existed. This points to a non-physical reality that must have certain characteristics 1. It has to be Timeless for it to create time. 2.Powerful, because of the vastness of the universe as we all know. 3. Intelligent, because the universe is complex. 4. Immaterial , because it created matter(space).

People may consider universe to be infinite, well, the big bang tells us otherwise. It tells us that there was a certain time in the past that it was created. The second law of thermodynamics tells us that things move from a state of order to disorder. Now, if this universe was infinitely old, there would be infinite disorder. That means, there was a beginning, and a cause to this universe. And spontaneously we ask ourselves, what is this cause ?

Now, is it - in the beginning was the world, or in the beginning were the particles ? Science tells us that the particles were not there in the beginning and that they came into existence. The world represents a necessity. And the best explanation we can give is, God - who represents the infinite, non-physical reality.

Thank you again, for the insult. I'm glad i took my time for you to be "happy".

Time is a concept first of all, it's not a physical thing but something man created to keep track of daily occurrences and points in the past / future.

Are you talking about god now? Or cosmology? Religion generally tries to disprove the big bang theory, you can't claim that "god" created everything then go back and say it was the big bang theory... which is science that essentially disproves god.

Regardless of how many video's you watch, post to threads, and try to adapt your "knowledge" to you are and always will be an idiot. Keep regurgitating flawed logic please, but stop generalizing with "the best explanation we can give is, God" because not everyone conforms to that idea, just the idiots like you who need someone to tell them they're worth something.

 

[FrozenWill]

nigga you believe god talked to all animals and made them walk across water to get to an old ass nigga who built a dusty ass boat to hold every single creature on this planet who also eat other creatures on this planet

And you believe in? Lol

 

[Trialkiller]

Also, Lenny, what religion do you subscribe to? I would like to know the specific brand your stupidity comes from.

 

[LennywBT]

Let's assume there is a greater being, how do you know that your god is the correct god? There are dozens of religions

What do you mean with "correct god" ? In my argument i did not include religion at all. God is the creator, representing the infinite, non-physical, super intelligent and powerful, reality. It is this one, that we are not able to see, or touch. It is it that created our universe. And i believe, there is a connection between our soul in this universe, and our soul in that universe. Because there was a cause that created me. And that cause, is God.

 

[CaptainPonysock]

And you believe in? Lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PWyGZ74_NE

 

[Trialkiller]

What do you mean with "correct god" ? In my argument i did not include religion at all. God is the creator, representing the infinite, non-physical, super intelligent and powerful, reality. It is this one, that we are not able to see, or touch. It is it that created our universe. And i believe, there is a connection between our soul in this universe, and our soul in that universe. Because there was a cause that created me. And that cause, is God.

"A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence."

Religion is so plainly stated as a reason for people to believe they exist, nothing more. "Beliefs" are not truth's, they're not proof, they're not a reason to kill people.

 

[inoobupro]

Also, Lenny, what religion do you subscribe to? I would like to know the specific brand your stupidity comes from.

he is a Muslim.

 

[LennywBT]

"A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence."

Religion is so plainly stated as a reason for people to believe they exist, nothing more. "Beliefs" are not truth's, they're not proof, they're not a reason to kill people.

Why do you quote me explaining what a religion is, because on my quote i said i did not was to include religion at all. Strange of you, because you seem to be close to a "perfect" individual.

"they're not a reason to kill people.

I don't know why you mention that, but it definitely makes no sense. The ones who kill for religion just do not have one, or are pretending to, or are psychopaths.

 

[Trialkiller]

Why do you quote me explaining what a religion is, because on my quote i said i did not was to include religion at all. Strange of you, because you seem to be close to a "perfect" individual.



I don't know why you mention that, but it definitely makes no sense. The ones who kill for religion just do not have one, or are pretending to, or are psychopaths.

Quoted the definition of religion, not anything you said. You say you believe in "god" but aren't religious? That's not how it works, pal. I suppose you're just a no-name brand believer though, fair enough.

Interesting that you so heavily support people believing in god, but dismiss actions people do in the name of their gods as psychopathic behaviour. You're clearly ignorant, keep spewing garbage.

 

[LennywBT]

Time is a concept first of all, it's not a physical thing but something man created to keep track of daily occurrences and points in the past / future.

Are you talking about god now? Or cosmology? Religion generally tries to disprove the big bang theory, you can't claim that "god" created everything then go back and say it was the big bang theory... which is science that essentially disproves god.

Regardless of how many video's you watch, post to threads, and try to adapt your "knowledge" to you are and always will be an idiot. Keep regurgitating flawed logic please, but stop generalizing with "the best explanation we can give is, God" because not everyone conforms to that idea, just the idiots like you who need someone to tell them they're worth something.

I don't need to tell you that i am worth something in the first place. In fact, you are that kid who offends and bullies everyone on the internet. Being too offensive, thinking that he knows everything.

Also, science does not disprove God. If you can read it properly, you can see that i gave scientific proofs in it's existence. Plus, the more videos i watch, the more knowledge i gain, which is what i want. You may probably not think the same.

Also, Lenny, what religion do you subscribe to? I would like to know the specific brand your stupidity comes from.

Quite ignorant , no ? I talked about logic in my explanation, not religion. But there is another mistake right there, not to talk about ad ˈhɒmɪnɛm, but you must also know that you can never judge a group by it's worst individuals.



- It is hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it is damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.

 

[Yapah]

The ones who kill for religion just do not have one, or are pretending to, or are psychopaths.

The Koran can be interpreted in many ways, ISIS thinks they are doing the right thing. According to them, they are making an Islamic State. All religious texts can be interpreted to suite your ideologies.

 

[Trialkiller]

I don't need to tell you that i am worth something in the first place. In fact, you are that kid who offends and bullies everyone on the internet. Being too offensive, thinking that he knows everything.

Also, science does not disprove God. If you can read it properly, you can see that i gave scientific proofs in it's existence. Plus, the more videos i watch, the more knowledge i gain, which is what i want. You may probably not think the same.




Quite ignorant , no ? I talked about logic in my explanation, not religion. But there is another mistake right there, not to talk about ad ˈhɒmɪnɛm, but you must also know that you can never judge a group by it's worst individuals.



- It is hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it is damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.

Your attempt at "logic" is laughable, you say you provide proof for a god but I don't see anything other than theoretical observations you've adopted from the various video's you watch on youtube. I appreciate your opinions about me, they're quite flattering but I'm clearly more to you than just a "kid who offends and bullies everyone on the internet" if you respond to me with such zeal.

 

[LennywBT]

Quoted the definition of religion, not anything you said. You say you believe in "god" but aren't religious? That's not how it works, pal. I suppose you're just a no-name brand believer though, fair enough.

Interesting that you so heavily support people believing in god, but dismiss actions people do in the name of their gods as psychopathic behaviour. You're clearly ignorant, keep spewing garbage.

Who the hell said i am not religious, find the damn sentence and quote it. I said i DID NOT INCLUDE religion, i did not say i am not religious. Continue with ad ˈhɒmɪnɛm, it fits your personality.

How am i ignorant ? You are the one making a crap ton of philosophical mistakes and yet you conclude i am the idiot. I, in the freaking entire argument have not mentioned you or committed a ad ˈhɒmɪnɛm. If i did, it was in your response, but - with what you are saying, you are degrading yourself in the first place, then the others around you, just so you know.

On topic, Mr.Trialkiller, "but dismiss actions people do in the name of their gods as psychopathic behaviour." - You are yet again judging a gigantic mass of people by it's worst group of individuals. Props to you, again.

 

[LennywBT]

The Koran can be interpreted in many ways, ISIS thinks they are doing the right thing. According to them, they are making an Islamic State. All religious texts can be interpreted to suite your ideologies.

but you must also know that you can never judge a group by it's worst individuals.

 

[FrozenWill]

Your attempt at "logic" is laughable, you say you provide proof for a god but I don't see anything other than theoretical observations you've adopted from the various video's you watch on youtube. I appreciate your opinions about me, they're quite flattering but I'm clearly more to you than just a "kid who offends and bullies everyone on the internet" if you respond to me with such zeal.

You believe the world blew up and then somehow created things, that's pretty damn laughable.

 

[LennywBT]

Your attempt at "logic" is laughable, you say you provide proof for a god but I don't see anything other than theoretical observations you've adopted from the various video's you watch on youtube. I appreciate your opinions about me, they're quite flattering but I'm clearly more to you than just a "kid who offends and bullies everyone on the internet" if you respond to me with such zeal.

- It is hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it is damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.

I end the argument with you right here, no need to talk anymore, as you are denying the thing they teach in Philosophy classes, the Cosmological Argument itself. I tried to argue with you, but you always and always keep doing mistakes in your sentences. I cannot continue like this, so ill give it a stop. You are just too "intelligent", and a not properly educated person, truth be told.

 

[LennywBT]

You believe the world blew up and then somehow created things, that's pretty damn laughable.

My bae.

 

[Yapah]

but you must also know that you can never judge a group by it's worst individuals.

I know that a large majority of muslims are peaceful (I live in a 95% muslim country), just wanted to prove a point that the extremists also believe in the same religion