it was when things were more balanced.
Questions about 20 twink
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ns66
Member
I would imagine that shouldn't be a problem, if class imbalance is a thing, you can quickly re-roll whatever class you like, and get to "end game" 20 in no time, unlike 70 which takes lots of effort, and "simpler" to play too, and gearing up in dungeons to blue 61 ilvl is pretty quick, getting epics takes more time but it's part of the fun. I think 20 twink is the best F2P pvp game out there, even better than 70, I guess people let sub expire just are tired of wow and go to other games... right now 70 BG is pretty stale, everyone all geared up, no more gear to look for, and people quit until S2
Chops
Soccer Dad
nobody, yet, has a bis 20 and the prepatch was 4 months ago
ns66
Member
just ran a BG, the queue was fine, 14vs15, but we got steamrolled by horde, the highest dmg is by a 29 horde hunter twink, I checked his stats, all 112 epic with some gem slots, but most of his gear got enchants? I thought only weapon can enchant above ilvl 50? I searched AH but found no enchants that can work for 112 ilvl, are those done by enchanter himself? a 20 twink is no match, hp is 1/2 of his lol
Didn't we try to tell you this? Maybe we didn't but that's what I meant when I was talking about things being balanced, 29s > 20s by quite a bit.
He's got grandfathered enchants. Farmed up all his gear pre-patch and enchanted it before the changes went live.
ns66
Member
yeah no match, just ran another, 10 vs 6, we only have 1 level 29, rest all 20, we won but only barely, my guess horde mostly 29 but haven't checked, well the good news is the queue is actually ok, I hope more 20 folks will join, dilute the 29's, those 29 twinks with paying accounts just want to grief 20's are the minority I hope, lol
icehawk
The Beast Within
My cynical view is that Blizz did this to push twinks to Classic or Wrath which requires a sub, and to some extent there was a large migration away from Retail.
I’m certain something like this happened previously and they eventually joined the queues. But problem we have this time round is low level PvP is so busted they just figure it’s easier to keep twinks out of the 20-29 XP on bracket,
I live in hope….. however so slim that we do eventually get back into good PvP games and queues.
I’m certain something like this happened previously and they eventually joined the queues. But problem we have this time round is low level PvP is so busted they just figure it’s easier to keep twinks out of the 20-29 XP on bracket,
I live in hope….. however so slim that we do eventually get back into good PvP games and queues.
ns66
Member
the thing is, once subbed, then players can do everything, blizzard can't "push" those subbed players to do something they want, like niche queue for particular BG, but taking away xp-on queues they disable pretty much the only thing un-subbed players can do, so they move on to other F2P games, and forget about wow. I don't think those players will re-sub just because they can't play the 20 twink BG. so it's a bad idea for blizzard. I think removing xp-on queue to gain revenue will surely be a fail, actually will be counter productive, but it may take some time and data for blizzard to see that, it's worth a try for them, lol
Chops
Soccer Dad
I 100% promise you, the decision wasnt made in regards to revenue or making money.
F2P players who play for an extended time either have other paid accounts (like everyone on these forums) or they don’t have the money/desire to ever sub and nothing blizz does will affect that
Blizzard removing f2p/vet characters from leveling bgs is consistent with their 15 year old policy of separating twinks from regular players in pvp. Nothing more.
F2P players who play for an extended time either have other paid accounts (like everyone on these forums) or they don’t have the money/desire to ever sub and nothing blizz does will affect that
Blizzard removing f2p/vet characters from leveling bgs is consistent with their 15 year old policy of separating twinks from regular players in pvp. Nothing more.
ns66
Member
why do they want to separate, because they don't want to piss off regular paying customers leveling up in bg, it's for the money ultimately
it's not like some "principle" they want to abide by, classic has it mixed also for players experience, i.e. sub money, well we will see how it goes if anything will change
Chops
Soccer Dad
The separated twinks from levelers long before f2p existed.
It’s neither here nor there. The fact of the matter is that a huge number of factors have colluded to drive twinking even farther out of the mainstream than it ever was
This, in turn, saw f2p revert to the niche style of play that it’s always been.
What we’re witnessing isn’t f2p dying. It’s f2p going back to normal after an abnormal blip in popularity
It’s neither here nor there. The fact of the matter is that a huge number of factors have colluded to drive twinking even farther out of the mainstream than it ever was
This, in turn, saw f2p revert to the niche style of play that it’s always been.
What we’re witnessing isn’t f2p dying. It’s f2p going back to normal after an abnormal blip in popularity
Hashbrowns
Legend
If you want to PvP at 20, I would suggest something OP to help level the playing field.
Marks/Surv, RShaman, maybe Arcane or Destro Warlock. Healers are always helpful. Those are classes that can still impact games vs 29s, albeit it's an uphill battle.
Everything else is likely a 1 hit.
Marks/Surv, RShaman, maybe Arcane or Destro Warlock. Healers are always helpful. Those are classes that can still impact games vs 29s, albeit it's an uphill battle.
Everything else is likely a 1 hit.
Hashbrowns
Legend
I know marks hits hard but I dont think people realize what a menace surv is. This is a raptor strike, my top is 3.9k
ns66
Member
yeah my arcane mage got 1 shot, blizzard should fix this kind of imbalance if they really "care" about the player experience lol
Sarmlery
Drugs
Play an unholy DK, you will one shot everything, even a level 39!
ns66
Member
I somehow never like DK, since BG now are full of twink hunters, maybe will try hunter? but I just don't like tag along a pet...
nope. when your sub runs out you're considered a veteran, veteran accounts don't bank XP