Ques Merged... kinda

[toskosa]

The "real 29s" https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/spirestone/fullmetál

I am aroused.

 

[Razien]

The "real 29s" https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/spirestone/fullmetál

Hey I got one of those.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/quelthalas/bløødfang

..no fancy enchants on that one though.
[doublepost=1660860266,1660858736][/doublepost]Just had a Warsong against an ally team that had a 28 spriest in raid gear and a 29 rogue with raid gear and helm enchant.

We won 3-0.

Just keep playing your 20s guys, these 29s aren't much stronger.

 

[Energetíc]

Just had a Warsong against an ally team that had a 28 spriest in raid gear and a 29 rogue with raid gear and helm enchant.

We won 3-0.

And we 3-0'd you But your 25 does impressive damage. It's super fun to get to play old main again, and to see others old toons.

 

[Razien]

And we 3-0'd you

Lol ya in a twin peaks where half my team was wearing lv14 greens.

The point wasn't that we won, the point was kind of more like "You don't have to give up on the lv20 you worked so hard on because they can compete with lv29s to a decent extent."

But your 25 does impressive damage. It's super fun to get to play old main again, and to see others old toons.

Thanks! Yeah I love seeing all of these old twinks. This takes me back to the good days.

 

[Energetíc]

Lol ya in a twin peaks where half my team was wearing lv14 greens.

The point wasn't that we won, the point was kind of more like "You don't have to give up on the lv20 you worked so hard on because they can compete with lv29s to a decent extent."


Thanks! Yeah I love seeing all of these old twinks. This takes me back to the good days.

Yeah I got the gist of it, had to poke a little with the 3-0 mention

 

[Razien]

Yeah I got the gist of it, had to poke a little with the 3-0 mention

Bwhahah okay gotcha

I don't really care who wins any bg tbh, I'm just happy to PvP again after 10 years hahaha

 

[Bop]

Yeah, you’re likely right that the xpoff queues will wane as vets/twinks grow bored of constantly competitive games with no leveler stomping to give quick ego hits. If that happens, that’s on us for refusing to adapt.

If bliz did this intentionally, it certainly makes sense. Genuinely new players will now get a better sense of what leveling pvp will be like through the brackets. Getting wrecked by vet premades during their first taste of sub-level battlegrounds is not conducive to inviting new subs.

Getting more lightly rolled by other levelers with full enchanted heirlooms will still feel uneven, but will feel less disillusioning and likely inspire them to keep playing to collect their own looms.

You truly are just one dumb human being. Like I've read some really brain blank things on this forum, but this has got to be archived as truly one of the most impressive.

You're genuinely mad at the idea of level 20s not queueing into 29 rerollers.

How do you fucking breathe?

 

[Energetíc]

Bwhahah okay gotcha

I don't really care who wins any bg tbh, I'm just happy to PvP again after 10 years hahaha

Yeah same here, rogue had been a trophy since WoD pretty much.

 

[Razien]

Yeah same here, rogue had been a trophy since WoD pretty much.

I've got almost 270 days /played on this char alone so being able to PvP again and potentially hit 100k HKs means a lot.

 

[Energetíc]

I've got almost 270 days /played on this char alone so being able to PvP again and potentially hit 100k HKs means a lot.

Damn I've been slacking, 100d and 58k hks here.

 

[Dysphoria]

You truly are just one dumb human being. Like I've read some really brain blank things on this forum, but this has got to be archived as truly one of the most impressive.

You're genuinely mad at the idea of level 20s not queueing into 29 rerollers.

How do you fucking breathe?

Uh, not upset by that idea at all. I don’t really understand what you’re getting at. Perhaps you misread what I was saying and/or my sentiment about it?

 

[Raz]

time for another twink tournament!

 

[Nayani_PVP]

this will be interesting, i wonder if it will be good or bad
seems quite random that they "fix" this now

i guess it opens the bracket a bit more to some people who otherwise avoided it completely

 

[Rhaellia]

Yeah but to be fair the power gap has never been this big between a vet and lvler lol. Something was bound to happen and it did so I am not surprised.

Accept it's still like that.

I queued two onxp bgs yesterday and saw a hunter in each one rocking ilvl 28 vendor gear and socket gear. One hunter was even using xpoff bug. With the AH merge it's easier and cheaper than ever to gear up an almost fully socketed throwaway toon. On top of that I saw little competition for either of these hunters. They were literally carrying the team, was wild yo. So, if this was their intent they failed miserably.

 

[Razien]

if this was their intent they failed miserably.

It failed miserably because, as I've said dozens of times in dozens of different places over the years..

..You can never erase "twinks" so long as this game is a MMORPG.

If there is gear in PvP then people will use gear in PvP.

They tried removing the gear with the legion templates but literally everybody universally hated the entire experience, so they un-did that "template system".

The only possible ways for Blizzard to manage it is as they do now; By having xp-off brackets and exp-on leveler brackets, or by only having a single bracket that has both xp-off and xp-on people in it.

The former results in less twinks, so here we are.

Less Twinks, but never zero twinks.

 

[toskosa]

Accept it's still like that.

I queued two onxp bgs yesterday and saw a hunter in each one rocking ilvl 28 vendor gear and socket gear. One hunter was even using xpoff bug. With the AH merge it's easier and cheaper than ever to gear up an almost fully socketed throwaway toon. On top of that I saw little competition for either of these hunters. They were literally carrying the team, was wild yo. So, if this was their intent they failed miserably.

You shoulda seen my warlock when I hit 27 and slapped on that spellfire set and brutal gladiator gear. was very funny tbh lol.

 

[Sarmlery]

 

[Dragpz]

The cynic in me wants to say Blizz did this because they want to squeeze as many subs as they can by letting subbed 29's smash f2ps/vets. But the realist in me says this is probably just another screw-up from Blizz

 

[Goesid]

Uh, not upset by that idea at all. I don’t really understand what you’re getting at. Perhaps you misread what I was saying and/or my sentiment about it?

I think youre too stupid to understand why people think youre stupid.

 

[Sarmlery]

Yeah, you’re likely right that the xpoff queues will wane as vets/twinks grow bored of constantly competitive games with no leveler stomping to give quick ego hits. If that happens, that’s on us for refusing to adapt.

If bliz did this intentionally, it certainly makes sense. Genuinely new players will now get a better sense of what leveling pvp will be like through the brackets. Getting wrecked by vet premades during their first taste of sub-level battlegrounds is not conducive to inviting new subs.

Getting more lightly rolled by other levelers with full enchanted heirlooms will still feel uneven, but will feel less disillusioning and likely inspire them to keep playing to collect their own looms.

The amount of autism that spews out of your mouth is quite astonishing. This man deserves his own badge, "Autism Cup 2022 Champion". @mod to make this happen.