Discussion in 'General WoW' started by Tom Ganks, May 22, 2020.
Yes they talked about this ever since shadowlands was revealed. It's a huge thing for the endgame community. But it's only gonna be good if the PvP gear is actually the best gear for PvP, else it won't change the "having to PvE to PvP" part of the game, which is what PvP'ers generally want to avoid.
They're also gonna remove all the rng extras on PvE gear afaik. Titanforging, sockets, extra stats. And tier sets are returning as well. Spells are being un-pruned etc. Overall it's looking good, but I'm never getting my hopes up again for Blizzard. Even Legion turned out super sick in the beginning, then LMAO JK EVERYTHING WENT TO SHIT OMEGALUL. BFA had ones hopes up as well then JK CORRUPTED GEAR RNG, FORCED PVE, FORCED CHORES.
I just wanna log in, play, log out. Let there be content out there, but let it be optional. Nerds can spam shit PvE, dailies and world quests if they want. Don't force it.
to this day I dont understand why most of yall arent more into MOBAs.
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I just wanna log in, play, log out.
think of random BG's like showing up to the park for a pick up game of hoops, just wanna play some ball, dont really wanna spend 30 hours trying to get the right shorts and sneakers to wear.
As a fan of WPvP, I liked how the gearing system worked in WoD. Best PvP gear was obtained via PvP and the PvP/ilevel would only activate if you were doing a PvP activity. If you used PvP gear for PvE purposes, then the ilevel was reduced.
Nothing was wrong with the vendors and the currency back then. I also liked the conquest catch-up mechanic. Once you geared out one toon, you could do it again on an alt and not be terribly far behind.
Once Legion hit with the gearing changes, I just lost a lot of interest in retail.
On paper, Shadowland changes sound good. The first couple of months of any expansion is usually a lot of fun. If they come through with a legit PvP gearing system, I might play beyond the two months (though, I'll definitely still be playing Classic and TBC).
I mean that's like asking a chess player why they aren't into checkers
A few weeks ago I asked an Alpha streamer about quest gear upgrading and he said he received one that rolled leech and a socket. Might have changed since then though.
Yea there was an interview with Ian Hostesskisses (whatever) where he said quest reward upgrades would be tertiary stats but that’s it
I used to play a lot of dota 1 into HoN then dota 2 until too many weird changes came around. I used to love mobas, and I still follow the dota scene from time to time. Maelk was the homie to drop me my dota 2 alpha key back in the day.
TBC sounds hype, ngl. I loved TBC for the endgame, but it's not gonna be the same as it used to be obv. Just like how Classic is not really how Classic used to be either.
Tbf, I would love if WoW was good, but I don't really need it to the same extent anymore. I have other shit to fall back on. If it's good, great, I'll play, if not, no sweat.
I could probably find some links n stuff, but I'm lazy af. Quests might be able to roll stats, but stuff from dungs n raids should not be able to. Unless they went back on all that, which I highly doubt, because that was a very much needed change.
i can’t tell you how hyped i am to play through those raids again. Sure, BT and Hyjal won’t be exactly the same but they were so fun, i can’t imagine it being much of a letdown to do them again
WoD gearing was great. Id love to see em go back to that, no legendaries and pve necks etc.
The PvE for me is gonna be so-so. I think retail is the place to be for PvE'ers. The evolution of PvE hasn't been too bad. It's mainly the PvP I'm looking at.
The playerbase of WoW has evolved a lot over time, and TBC has a lot of gimmicks, and I do mean A LOT. Hopefully PvP won't be too bad. At least it's not gonna be as heavy on the "1,2,3 GO" meta that's been a thing since end wotlk / start cata. In TBC you actually had kill potential outside of CD's. The sustain was deadly, which is what I liked. Makes the pace a lot different, and you can punish a lot more. Also, gear matters, but no way near to the same extent of retail, which opens up to a lot of outplay potential.
TBC was the first (and only) xpac that i took endgame seriously and id be lying if i said i wasn’t nostalgic to revisit that content. Not real stoked on current endgame (but I’m also not terribly familiar with the higher edge of it any more) so id enjoy dipping back in time a bit.
but i remember the pvp being real nice then too. Arena was super fresh and DKs hadnt yet introduced the abilities creep that wrecked class distinctions. It was a truly amazing xpac
Talking about tbc. Remember wotlk prepatch ret paladins?
i had forgotten but oooooof
Yeah. Wod was lackluster in content but the gameplay and gearing was solid. I also loved the free wargames-specific gear you could get if you weren't fully geared out.
I agree. Honor gear was so easy to get from Ashran and the in-pvp item lvl difference from Honor to Domination gear wasn't that great.
I'd argue that this combination made WoD's PvP more accessible than Legion's, while maintaining character builds etc.
Funny thing is that they didn't like how the PvP scaling in MoP and WoD, because it confused the players. But the scaling from BfA is a thousand miles more obtuse and unclear - everything you want to avoid in competitive modes.
Ye, you just had to get the set. If you wanted to customize you could farm the 10 ilvl lower honor gear with a socket for rings/trinket/wrists.
And pve gear worked in pvp it just wasnt as good. Also there was warforging but it wasnt 50 ilvls. It was their finest work.
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