Premades and Realid/battletag

i wasent trying to say that we NEED BH i was saying that if BH wasn't a twink hub then we would prob not be able to do Real ID premades like this every week because it can take hours to get all 4 grps to get same pop compared to having 2 ppl on BH on diff teams = instant pop
 
I see tons of new twinks on BH all the time, who aren't a part of the big guilds like TC and WT, so that point is invalid.

However, let's not get into this same discussion AGAIN. Back on topic please.
 
Sneaky said:
I see tons of new twinks on BH all the time, who aren't a part of the big guilds like TC and WT, so that point is invalid.

However, let's not get into this same discussion AGAIN. Back on topic please.
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just because your on BH dosent mean u need to be in WT or TC or NA...................................
 
Cannabis12 said:
just because your on BH dosent mean u need to be in WT or TC or NA...................................
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My point wasn't directed towards you, it was Mocha. What I'm saying is there are new twinks all the time on BH so the whole "there are no new twinks if we're on a central server" point is invalid.
 
Sneaky said:
My point wasn't directed towards you, it was Mocha. What I'm saying is there are new twinks all the time on BH so the whole "there are no new twinks if we're on a central server" point is invalid.
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My point:
If we are on one server, we are exposed to less people resulting in fewer new twinks. This point is indeed a fact and cannot be called "invalid" simply because you dislike me.

If we were spread across multiple servers, we would be exposed to thousands of players who possibly may have never known about 19 twinking. Being exposed to thousands of new players indeed increases our population at a much higher rate than if we all stayed on BH.

If we were highly active on 5+ servers then with time we would have 5+ servers with more than what BH has to offer today, we would be exposed to a greater number of players resulting in:
  • More new players
  • More new guilds
  • More premades
  • Faster Queue times
  • Different levels of competitiveness amongst players, guilds, servers
Many of you are disagreeing with what I say simply because I'm the one who said it, when simply put these are inevitable occurrences that will happen naturally if we boosted activity on multiple servers. To disagree with my points based on natural population trends is to disagree with nature itself which is indeed a battle that cannot be won via primitive thinking.

Contrary to popular tendencies when someone says something no one is forcing you to rebut whatever they said. I don't see a single way of proving what would naturally happen to be "invalid" so as a result I'm not expecting a response.
 
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On the flip side seeing one or 2 random 19s on a givin server is a lot less likely to get someone interested in the bracket then seeing a ton all around the major cities. It creates the illusion of a thriving bracket.
 
Not only that, and in a rare case of me caring whether any thread stays OT, this thread should stay open and active and uncluttered whilst addressing DIRECTLY the topic of the first page. We can argue semantics in other threads :)
 
Mocha said:
My point:
If we are on one server, we are exposed to less people resulting in fewer new twinks. This point is indeed a fact and cannot be called "invalid" simply because you dislike me.

If we were spread across multiple servers, we would be exposed to thousands of players who possibly may have never known about 19 twinking. Being exposed to thousands of new players indeed increases our population at a much higher rate than if we all stayed on BH.

If we were highly active on 5+ servers then with time we would have 5+ servers with more than what BH has to offer today, we would be exposed to a greater number of players resulting in:
  • More new players
  • More new guilds
  • More premades
  • Faster Queue times
  • Different levels of competitiveness amongst players, guilds, servers
Many of you are disagreeing with what I say simply because I'm the one who said it, when simply put these are inevitable occurrences that will happen naturally if we boosted activity on multiple servers. To disagree with my points based on natural trends is to disagree with nature itself which is indeed a battle that cannot be won via primitive thinking.

Contrary to popular tendencies when someone says something no one is forcing you to rebut whatever they said. I don't see a single way of proving what would naturally happen to be "invalid" so as a result I'm not expecting a response.
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I had no intention of delving further into this, but here goes.

1. I don't dislike you, (or anyone else for that matter). So don't try and throw things off. An example of someone disliking another here would be you and Twiggi. And speaking of that, here's the quote of the point I was referring to as invalid (directed to Twiggi):

Mocha said:
Pardon me m'am but don't you normally tell newer players to turn their exp back on?

Can't get new players whilst 19s only existing on one realm.
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As you can see, that point is, in fact, invalid, because 19's will continue to get new players even if we're on one realm. I play on multiple twink servers and from my experience the larger the twink population is on a single given server, the more twinks you attract because it gives an idea of a larger active community that they can be a part of if they become a twink.

2. I am not disagreeing with you 'just because you're the one who said it'. A lot of your points aren't thought out well enough as you think they are because you have this continuous bias against BH. I, on the other hand, don't play often on BH and from a neutral point of view I think there are downsides and positives of having a central server.

3. I am rebutting because your statement is invalid. To say you can't get any new 19s because everyone is one 1 server is blasphemy and you know it. Don't try to change your words and then make it seem like I'm arguing against you for no reason.
 
Not going to quote sneaky but well said mate


also this:
augiddin said:
On the flip side seeing one or 2 random 19s on a givin server is a lot less likely to get someone interested in the bracket then seeing a ton all around the major cities. It creates the illusion of a thriving bracket.
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and mocha, from an exposure point of view what you say can make sense, but being spread out just for the sake of exposure is pretty ridiculous because it can be gained in so many other ways without sacrificing the central hub.

you may have stepped out of one box, but you're still inside a Russian Doll...

: )
 
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I think what we see here is Mocha finally realized he can't be Tony Stark IRL, therefore he vents on the forums.
 
FYI, don't bother posting your realid/battletags or w/e anymore. Originally I thought this could be like a twink yellow pages and people could just organize shit on the fly but that's no longer the case. Joining vent or at least letting someone in vent know you want to play the night of games is far more important.
 
<Dominate> had 5 members on the other night wanting to try out 19's, but there was no pops.. when's a good night to try?
(not even including Fortt)
 
So for this Sunday we're gonna basically do the same thing but with two guidelines to get more games in.

1. We'll set a max of 10 minutes for teams to be setup after a game is finished. This means swapping anyone in and out and getting everyone in vent or skype. If you want to play after games start being played make sure you're around within 10 minutes of the game ending, so don't be in a WSG and take deserter because you won't get in.

2. Anyone on Bleeding Hollow that has the xp to do so should go to SW or w/e city we choose to meet for queuing before the games begin. We wasted a ton of time getting people there to queue, and since we want to rotate more people in this week we're going to need even more people who can queue.

If we do these two things we should easily double the amount of games we play, meaning double the fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Don't you mean a neutral city like shat or dal?
 
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