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Kracks
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ya im always down to play in 10v10s they r rlly fun
[doublepost=1553670640,1553670566][/doublepost]kind of random that you would bring those up tho...
[doublepost=1553671066][/doublepost]u are the one who brought up 10v10s all i did was insinuate that mvc and anyone who plays with him is severely mentally ill...
[doublepost=1553670640,1553670566][/doublepost]kind of random that you would bring those up tho...
[doublepost=1553671066][/doublepost]u are the one who brought up 10v10s all i did was insinuate that mvc and anyone who plays with him is severely mentally ill...
The Saint
I won't like you
Allybeboba
Legend
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Frogturtle
Veteran
As someone who mained rogue in legion and used to view the game in the same lens as you, let me explain something
You are a player that seemingly cannot distinguish between objectively good plays and plays that SEEM good to you
KNOWING an objectively good play means studying what the best thing to do in all situations is and acting on it even if it doesn’t feel intuitive or rewarding
This can mean staying in stealth when you’d rather open and do damage or not picking flag when you’d rather pick flag because you have the KNOWLEDGE to override your gut reaction
Mvq will always team with @Quack over you because of this reason on top of the fact that he’s proven himself as a good player, not meant as an insult but rather view this as an opportunity to be humble and learn something from what he’s saying
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Critless
Veteran
Thank you! And I am still learning these wargame strats...as I haven’t played in 2 xpacs...and before that I was more into endgame over pvp. Haven’t really been all pvp since vanilla.
Quack
Guest
most people that actually take time to respond to ur posts are more interested in helping u improve than making u look like an idiot.
if u play better the pugs are more enjoyable for everyone.
stop looking at it personally.
kiri
Veteran
apropos how's wow and 19s doing these days? EU specific, worth a resub or nah ? Much update needed for gear in BFA or plug n play(ish)?
Dont think I played Legion if that matters in regards to gear.
Thx in advance.
Oh, btw it's nice to see some drama here again, good to kno u guys are keeping yourself entertained still
Dont think I played Legion if that matters in regards to gear.
Thx in advance.
Oh, btw it's nice to see some drama here again, good to kno u guys are keeping yourself entertained still
Quack
Guest
EU is popping doesn't look enjoyable from watching streams haven't played it personally.apropos how's wow and 19s doing these days? EU specific, worth a resub or nah ? Much update needed for gear in BFA or plug n play(ish)?
Dont think I played Legion if that matters in regards to gear.
Thx in advance.
Oh, btw it's nice to see some drama here again, good to kno u guys are keeping yourself entertained still
A lot has changed since WoD in terms of gearing and warlocks are a little more handicapped.
You missed a few pieces in legion but nothing huge.
Frogturtle
Veteran
Ya that’s fine dude the most important thing is being a student of the game and being humble enough to learn from ppl trying to help you
Be willing to ask people what you did wrong and could do better etc and you will improve much faster
Eclipsis
Grandfathered
Quack literally just took the words out of my mouth, people are acting pretty hostile, no way around that, they won't stop necessarily, but they aren't directly trying to attack you.
You're new to the bracket (Sort of), you still don't know what you don't know, take the sentiment (Not the wording) of these comments and learn from it. you'll improve, you'll likely mature in your understanding / awareness within WSG (Not referring to attitude, and definitely not calling MVQ mature), and you'll make games better for yourself and everyone else involved.
kiri
Veteran
Cheers Quack good to see u still around!
Locks are in a bad state ? wow, thats a first iirc ?!
US better then? Got acc there aswel I could resub.. Got studies next month anyway so need some alternative entertainment
Quack
Guest
from playing in US comparing to watching EU.Cheers Quack good to see u still around!
Locks are in a bad state ? wow, thats a first iirc ?!
US better then? Got acc there aswel I could resub.. Got studies next month anyway so need some alternative entertainment
US is a little better alright.
Locks aren't rly good no.
Nice to see u too bro.
Eclipsis
Grandfathered
Player quality is the biggest problem with EU, the issue is instead of fixing it the good players just move to US and make it worse. Can't fault them for it, but it is unfortunate that we can't keep both ecosystems going at the same level. A lot of the Legion Twinks still remain (And aren't looking likely to learn how to objectively / awarely play WSG), and even in WoD the quality of EU games was definitely lower than US. I'd let the dust settle, let the new guys learn how much they have to learn (And decide if they wanna learn it), and hopefully there won't be a mass EU exodus before the game quality starts going up.Cheers Quack good to see u still around!
Locks are in a bad state ? wow, thats a first iirc ?!
US better then? Got acc there aswel I could resub.. Got studies next month anyway so need some alternative entertainment
Yeah lock just doesn't have the oomph it had in WoD (Can't comment on Legion). Because of the way MM's damage functions, it's kinda taken the old destro warlock role and merged it with the WoD SV hunter role. If you want a caster who pumps high sustained single target, has access to CC, and is also made of absolute fucking paper, then your best bet would be mage.
EDIT: Just do the whole bracket a favour and don't just play arcane.
Quack
Guest
this summaries my opinion pretty well
Kaxle
OG
How do you go about doing this without being a pest? There are times where I'm unsure what exactly I'm suppose to be doing at a given moment in these xpoff bgs but continuously whispering people whose names I recognize for direction seems like it would just end up annoying people quickly
Eclipsis
Grandfathered
To some extent, but given the way a lot of players in Xpoff interact with eachother, and have known eachother for a very long time, you shouldn't worry about that too much. It's not that you're "bad" at WSG per se, it's that you're an unknown variable. They don't know you, so they don't know if you know what you should be doing, which in turn means they can't do things with the assumption that you'll do what they expect of you in response.
Certainly don't pester people constantly / but try to make sure the team doesn't see you as a "random". You want your teammates to feel comfortable expecting things of you, and if you aren't at that level yet, you should always make sure you're on the same page as the players relevant to the situation.
Frogturtle
Veteran
You should eliminate the mindset that asking for advice is annoying, it’s more so the manner in which you ask
For one, have specific questions, like “what should I have done in x situation” or “who is someone I can reach out to about y” or just questions that are targeted and have intention vs “hey how are get good @ gaym”
Also don’t constantly spam people with questions, once you get some answers try to implement them into your gameplay and then follow up later. Like “hey I tried this and it worked for me, but now I think I’m struggling with x” like just be honest and show that you’ve taken action since your previous conversation
If someone is uninterested they probably just won’t respond or they’ll say they don’t know, if someone is a dick to you and tells you you’ll be dog shit forever then they’re not worth your time, and if they help you out then that’s what you were after anyway
I can tell you that in this community most people seem at least somewhat interested in giving valid advice, if you seek out help you’ll find it
Just my 2 cents, give it a try and take with a grain of salt etc