Perfect Premade Setup.
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Bragh
OG
Just to join the discussion, a rogue in O is viable, no class can(or at least could) put out as much dmg in a short amount of time, as the rogue. Might be what we call Burst dmg today :O
Though the rogue have been weakened looking at buffs other classes have gained. I'd say a clever rogue, as Falaris stated, is one of the best DPS classes to have in an O. As ofc, it can't do shit when alone. But when it's time for the serious nukedown, a rogue comes in bloody handy
Yes it's important to "drain" the D, but you still need that burst to actually take the FC down.
Though the rogue have been weakened looking at buffs other classes have gained. I'd say a clever rogue, as Falaris stated, is one of the best DPS classes to have in an O. As ofc, it can't do shit when alone. But when it's time for the serious nukedown, a rogue comes in bloody handy
Yes it's important to "drain" the D, but you still need that burst to actually take the FC down.
Reflexes
Master Angler
Grunge said:
Hunters primary roll should be hard slow/cc then dps.
Hunters that don't utilize their other moves and simply dps are bayud.
Back on topic, rogues can be somewhat viable. The problem is in warsong w/ open space, a good mage WILL lock down a rogue. That's a fact-so for a rogue to work in wsg they're going to need to have a very good understanding of los
And then you ask yourself, why am I not using a warrior/shaman
Falaris
OG
Because rogues do more damage in the windows when theyre actually on a target. As Ive said, a smart rogue can anticipate when theres going to be an attack window, and use his cooldowns accordingly. The people in this thread theorycrafting that rogues are completely unviable just dont really play with good rogues tbh, or play on good teams.
Stealthbot
OG
Ironic coming from some1 who last premaded with their rogue pre travelform gw n cheeta.
If u even did then
If u even did then
Falaris
OG
On a somewhat related note, I absolutely love the hypocrisy of giving me a warning/ban for having a discussion that differs from a mod, but when 4-5 people constantly badger me about my points of view on a 19 premade not a word is said to them. What were you saying Rayu about me trying to figure out why I got banned? Im still missing that reason I guess. Apparently we'll have to go with 'its ok to have disagreements, just dont disagree with the Moderator'.
Stealthbot
OG
Lol u just proved my point
u were offered an invite cause they were a man down. And getting 2 returns gratz bro majority of ppl scroll click nowday so no big feat bro
wat guilds did u premade with...
Oh n dunno wat priest above me is trying to say
u were offered an invite cause they were a man down. And getting 2 returns gratz bro majority of ppl scroll click nowday so no big feat bro
wat guilds did u premade with...
Oh n dunno wat priest above me is trying to say
Falaris, your ban was justified. In fact its posts like the one above this that vindicate it.
Anywho, more on topic. I would love to try a 4x Druid defense. Stack the FC up with nature resistance and subtlety and i reckon you can get a 67% (15NR on cloak, 2xrings and magic resistance pot) chance of purge failing. Assuming that the O is wise to this and has brought 2 or 3 shamans then their damage output will fall significantly if they have 3 players spamming purge constantly. Also this would mean that they would be crutching on windshear as their primary interupts, assuming they want a hunter or two and a priest, which would have 37% failure chance (again, the healing druids would have NR). It shouldnt suffer too much from losing a mage shaman ans priest since there would be 4 sets of roots flying about thus mage isnt so necessary; CC isnt a problem, therefore friendly dispell isnt so necessary; and the shaman would be out healed.
I would love to try this, as i reckon it would be a pretty fine kiting D and druids heal good. Droods are better than shamans imo, especially when purge is less of a problem. the lack of huge heals would be compensated for the near constant hots and glyph of rejuv.
Anywho, more on topic. I would love to try a 4x Druid defense. Stack the FC up with nature resistance and subtlety and i reckon you can get a 67% (15NR on cloak, 2xrings and magic resistance pot) chance of purge failing. Assuming that the O is wise to this and has brought 2 or 3 shamans then their damage output will fall significantly if they have 3 players spamming purge constantly. Also this would mean that they would be crutching on windshear as their primary interupts, assuming they want a hunter or two and a priest, which would have 37% failure chance (again, the healing druids would have NR). It shouldnt suffer too much from losing a mage shaman ans priest since there would be 4 sets of roots flying about thus mage isnt so necessary; CC isnt a problem, therefore friendly dispell isnt so necessary; and the shaman would be out healed.
I would love to try this, as i reckon it would be a pretty fine kiting D and druids heal good. Droods are better than shamans imo, especially when purge is less of a problem. the lack of huge heals would be compensated for the near constant hots and glyph of rejuv.
Bragh
OG
Falaris said:
Yeah! Agreed. The sole purpose of returning a flag is at set time, you are supposed to outdps the healing done on the target. This usually happens allot faster if timed correct, thus a rogue is way better than a "draining" class. Rogue with all CD's will do the dmg he needs in those 6-10 seconds that is needed for the well timed Takedown!
Not saying it's easy to take efc down, just when the time is right for the nukedown, you'll want to have that rogue!
Stealthbot
OG
Rofl u dunno who i am cause i dont associate with bads like urself and hes from eu so i cant be bothered. 1st premade in 3months gratz bro!!!
Keep it up
Reeto911-
Keep it up
Reeto911-
Bragh said:
You'll want a healer with the rogue, cos Takedown hurts yourself aswell as the enemy.
Falaris
OG
Kore nametooshort said:
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/20-29-bracket/6923-soloing-gnomeregan-29-warr.html
An entire 8 page thread of people trolling the OP for posting a vid (and even a mod insulting the people who are trolling, thereby trolling himself)
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/30-39-bracket/11502-can-someone-give-me-list-all-green-lens.html
Five pages of people insulting each other back and forth, cussing each other out, basically just trolling each other. No mod responses whatsoever.
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/30-39-bracket/11418-some-cata-talent-tree-uppdates.html
Very first response to the OP is 'Your (lol) an idiot if you believe this'. It continues with 5 pages of a couple people giving this guy shit because they dont believe that MMO-champion is an accurate source of information.
http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/10-19-bracket/11289-perfect-premade-setup.html
Hey guess what.... its THIS THREAD, where we have such platinum hits as:
This entire forum is full of people arguing/trolling with each other. Its no shock that one of the people calling me an idiot for saying rogues were viable was one of the 2 people saying my ban was justified. The only reason it was 'justified' was because I had an opinion that differed from one of a Moderator, it had NOTHING to do with me trolling, or DEFINITELY without me trolling more than anyone else. So wait, a ban is justified if you RESPOND to someone insulting you while typing like a mouthbreather, when in reality you should always just ignore the insults people throw your way so YOU dont get in trouble???