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EU+US Most out of Racials as F2P

Discussion in 'Free to Play' started by Fatal Furry, Jul 7, 2017.

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  1. Imnotabelf

    Imnotabelf Grandfathered

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    This makes me want to race change so many of my toons lol. Too bad it's expensive as hell!
     
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  2. Jabz

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    Wish this was uploaded a long time ago nice post dude!! keep it up !!!
     
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  3. inoobupro

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    human racial best racial since wotlk. Like...wtf.. how is human in t4...you get to break out of an extra stun. The majority of this shitty game's comps revolve around stuns

    hehe xd
    Stoneform was nerfed due to DKs during WOTLK so you could not really cleanse diseases with it

    XD ;) :)
     
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  4. Celax

    Celax Death's Demise

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    Yep, but for a while you could before it was nerfed. But hey, had to do everything possible to make them live up to that hero class, right? ;)
     
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  5. Chops

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    Im tellin yall. Dwarf is the master race.
     
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  6. Celax

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    It's always been my favorite in any form of RPG. They always have neat lore, and are always pretty fun to play. I think WoW really hit the nail on the head with it, and borrowed the best aspects of dwarf mythos from Tolkien, Germanic lore, a bit of D&D, and plenty of their own take on it.

    That and they look amazing in almost all gear.

    Anyone else really miss treasure finding? :(
     
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  7. Chops

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    Yea, I love them. The only bit of RP I engage in was making sure my toon had an appropriate tabard. So getting the Wildhammer Clan on my 20 was HUGE for me. Even though, given that stoneform exists, it technically means all playable dwarves are Bronzebeard, not Wildhammer (to bring it back around to racials) but we're just gonna ignore that.
     
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  8. Celax

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    Yeah, there are a handful of goofs in lore in the game. Some blatantly hilarious, some probably overlooked (Like the racial).

    Blizz has a habit of retconning lore, and throwing some stuff together and just calling it good. But they also have some amazing stuff, so it's okay.

    I remember having a character or two on Emerald Dream in Clan Battlehammer for a few years as an alt, just so I could log on and do all dwarf raids and PVP groups. Those were fun times.

    Also, I really need to work on more tabards on my characters. Then again, 90% of the time I just use Tabard of Flame.
     
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    Going to keep Orcs and Trolls T3 for now until we get some more +DMG advocates vs. +Move Speed advocates.

    Thank you!

    Yeah, I wasn't too sure about how the shared CD timers were. Going to re-evaluate my whole Freedom Movement Category and rework it into higher tiers.

    Thanks for all the input guys, keep it coming.
     
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  10. Celax

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    Human racial was a lot more fun when it didn't share CD with trinks. ;)
     
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    Fatal Furry

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    Was away for a while. Scanned over some of your posts, making edits.

    Moving Humans and other "Freedmon Movement" Category Racials up multiple tiers across multiple classes, after recognizing how huge the 30 sec CD for 2nd (albeit limited) trinket use is compared to waiting a whole 2 minutes.

     
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  12. Dragpz

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    Here's my personal tier list.

    Horde Racials > Alliance Racials

    Tier 1
    Pandaren
    (Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Priest)
    Notes: The ultimate trinket baiter. It's very easy to bait a trinket and then CC them into a longer CC (Freeze Trap/Psychic Scream). Or sometimes to incap heals/pets (to stop Flanking Strikes). The reduced fall damage is great for the WSG GY ledge, LM drops, BET/MT drops. It would be Tier S/A, if food were active in BGs, because +12 Stam/Vers is no laughing matter.

    Drawbacks: Not pleasant to look at.

    Horde Racials
    Great Tier (aka why Horde Racials>Alliance Racials)

    Blood Elf (Warrior, Hunter, Rogue)
    Notes: AoE interrupt. OP.
    Drawbacks: Not good outside fighting casters.

    Tauren (Warrior, Hunter, Druid)
    Notes: 2s AoE Stun.
    Drawbacks: 0.5s cast time. Very short and not usually trinketed.


    Meh Tier
    Goblins (Priest, Mage)
    Notes: Quick escape/mobility for classes without it.
    Drawbacks: It's very easy to get snared mid-jump. Rocket Jump sounds great on paper, but in actual combat, it's horrible.

    Undead (Warlock)
    Notes: Cannibalize is amazing.
    Drawbacks: WotF suffers the same problem as EMFH. Cannibalize is primarily good on lock where HP/MP becomes a problem. Maybe arcane mages.


    Trash Tier
    These races get slight advantages in 1v1 situations, not that good anywhere else.
    Orc (Warrior)
    Notes: Minor boost to AP/SP.
    Drawbacks: Pet damage and stun reduction aren't great.

    Troll (Warrior)
    Notes: Minor regen and slight haste boost.
    Drawbacks: Snare reduction isn't great.




    Alliance Racials
    Good Tier

    Dwarf (Warrior, Hunter, Rogue)
    Notes: Damage reduction/Bleed/Poison Removal.
    Drawbacks: The only combat racial. But there aren't that many bleeds/poisons.

    Night Elf (Warrior, Rogue, Hunter, Druid)
    Notes: Vanish.
    Drawbacks: Not great for combat. But great for disengaging/free vanish.

    Meh Tier
    Gnome (Rogue, Priest, Mage)
    Notes: Extra Energy/MP. Snare break is great.
    Drawbacks: Snare break is kinda only half good, since most classes easily reapply their snares.

    Worgen (Warrior, Mage, Warlock)
    Notes: Good on classes lacking mobility.
    Drawbacks: 40% move speed is only good for two things: 1. Chasing 2. Running away. Not much actual effect unless kiting a Warrior.

    Trash Tier
    Humans are the goto for PVE though.

    Human (???)
    Notes: Breaks stuns.
    Drawbacks: EMFH shares a 30s CD with trinket and there are like two stuns in F2P/Vet bracket: HoJ and War Stomp. Pallies aren't the meta, and by the time 30s elapses you're either dead, or they're dead. Only useful in fights where both sides have healers (almost never).

    Draenei (Warrior)
    Notes: A HoT.
    Drawbacks: The heals are pretty bad. Only good if you have no healer or if you are on the brink of death.


     
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  13. Celax

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    Majorly disagree on Worgen.

    Very, very good for Rogues and FCs.
     
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  14. Dragpz

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    Cat is 30% and Travel is 40%. I don't recall Darkflight stacking with Travel, but if it does, I guess it would be the top pick for FCs. It's alright for Rogues, but rogues are pretty bad atm. Outlaw gets a ranged snare and stun so chasing isn't as much of a problem.
    And, well, personally, my ranking is based around combat potential
     
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  15. Recluse

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    Escape Artist on a Monk is literally heaven
     
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  16. Celax

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    I wouldn't say Rogues are bad. I do just fine blowing people up on Sub.
     
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  17. Iild

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    this is why i cant take your bracket seriously

    also putting blood elf on every tier4 slot for every ranged class is a joke lmao
     
  18. Celax

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    lild baiting for attention again.

    Nothing to see here. :)
     
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  19. Corypheus

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    back when priests got Spectral Guise, stoneform followed by Spectral Guise saved my dwarf priest many times. but i guess we centainly have a lot better options in legion :(
    blood elf mage would be tier1, human mage is not.
    blink removes stuns and human racial shares a cd with trinket so i'd rather save trinket for other CCs
    f2p mages no longer have counterspell so blink followed by arcane torrent is the only instant way to interrupt healers
     
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    Fatal Furry

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    Hey, guys. Been away for a while.
    Reworked some of the order.
    Would like to get the discussion going again to further improve the list.

    I guess let's start by each class individually.
    First up:

     
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