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[Nodoka]

good thing the opinion of a basement dwelling weeb trash idiot doesn't hold a candle against the ALPHA AND OMEGA KNOWN AS DORYGON

Sure is good isnt it.

 

[Snack]

Kick only matters against Casted Abilities, of which 10's don't have many. Disengage means nothing against Ranged 10's (and even 19's have issues if they are Melee against Ranged). Sap (in Duels) only matters once and if that Rogue can't alpha that 10 with his/her opener then Sap is also moot. The same can be said with Druid's Stun from Stealth. Fear is another that means almost nothing against Ranged and only helps against Melee to get them to back off so you can Bandage or w/e. But, since we all have the Trinket Ability now, none of those Abilities are "Game changers" since all of them can be countered. There's also the fact that every single 10 can have a stun as well if they chose Eng.

Your whole argument is based around a lvl 10 going off against another level 10, which wasn't what we were discussing, we were discussing how a level 10 is gimped compared to a level 19.

But whatever, your explanations of those abilities and their aparent uselesness are a proof of your lack in basic skill or maybe just experience.

A rogue with kick > a rogue without kick
A hunter with disengage > a hunter without disengage
Sap > no sap
Fear > no fear

 

[Slice]

Your whole argument is based around a lvl 10 going off against another level 10, which wasn't what we were discussing, we were discussing how a level 10 is gimped compared to a level 19.

But whatever, your explanations of those abilities and their aparent uselesness are a proof of your lack in basic skill or maybe just experience.

A rogue with kick > a rogue without kick
A hunter with disengage > a hunter without disengage
Sap > no sap
Fear > no fear

skilled player > noob

xd

 

[Snack]

skilled player > noob

xd

Skilled lvl 19 > skilled lvl 10

 

[Slice]

Skilled lvl 19 > skilled lvl 10

not necessarily

a 19 hunter may have disengage but my 10 rogue has shadowmeld... bam i win

 

[Snack]

skilled player > noob

xd

And I don't know if you were hinting that 10's are more skilled than 19's?..........

 

[Snack]

not necessarily

a 19 hunter may have disengage but my 10 rogue has shadowmeld... bam i win

You're making lvl 10's look real good with your bulletproof logic, gj!

 

[Slice]

And I don't know if you were hinting that 10's are more skilled than 19's?..........

it was a light hearted comment but ofc you turned it into something more...

You're making lvl 10's look real good with your bulletproof logic, gj!

you said that 19s are better than 10s, this is not true. it really depends on class/spec and sometimes race, NOT level.

 

[Nodoka]

it was a light hearted comment but ofc you turned it into something more...



you said that 19s are better than 10s, this is not true. it really depends on class/spec and sometimes race, NOT level.

19s > 10s.

 

[Slice]

19s > 10s.

im sorry but firstly you havent stated whether that is wpvp or ipvp,

if it is wpvp then you're just blatantly wrong (secondary fucking stats m8)

if you are talking ipvp then i agree that some classes/specs have higher potential at level 19 than 10 but that is certainly not true for all classes/specs

 

[Snack]

it was a light hearted comment but ofc you turned it into something more...



you said that 19s are better than 10s, this is not true. it really depends on class/spec and sometimes race, NOT level.

What you are talking about is class vs class which is completely irrelevant. This whole thread has been about 10's and 19's and thus it only makes sense to compare the same class but at different level, i.e;
19 hunter > 10 hunter
19 priest > 10 priest
19 feral > 10 feral

You can try all you want, but at the end of the day 19's > 10's

 

[Slice]

What you are talking about is class vs class which is completely irrelevant. This whole thread has been about 10's and 19's and thus it only makes sense to compare the same class but at different level, i.e;
19 hunter > 10 hunter
19 priest > 10 priest
19 feral > 10 feral

You can try all you want, but at the end of the day 19's > 10's

sorry i just find this really really funny

 

[Stabilt]

Can all of u irrelevant, bad 10s stop argueing already? Go back raiding hogger or something, atleast stop making fools of urself on forums, we get enough of it ingame

 

[DeLindsay]

Your whole argument is based around a lvl 10 going off against another level 10, which wasn't what we were discussing, we were discussing how a level 10 is gimped compared to a level 19.

But whatever, your explanations of those abilities and their aparent uselesness are a proof of your lack in basic skill or maybe just experience.

A rogue with kick > a rogue without kick
A hunter with disengage > a hunter without disengage
Sap > no sap
Fear > no fear

What the hell are you talking about. I clearly stated 10 vs 19 as in 10 without Sap, Disengage, Kick, etc vs a 19 WITH said Abilities in Duels and/or WPvP. I'm stating how Sap is only useful ONE TIME from a Level 19 Dueling a Level 10 and then it's moot because that 19 Rogue can't use it again. Kick on a 19 is only useful against Casted Abilities that 10's don't have much of, again no Game changer there. Disengage on a 19 Hunter has absolutely no value against Ranged Level 10's in a Duel or WPvP. Sure it has a little bit of Utility against Level 10 Melee but those 10 Melee Classes can also stun that Hunter after DE with Eng Bombs then re-close that gap and continue as normal.

I can continue if you like but something tells me you just don't get it or will always see your 19's as superior regardless of what logic is tossed your way.

 

[Arkant]

What the hell are you talking about. I clearly stated 10 vs 19 as in 10 without Sap, Disengage, Kick, etc vs a 19 WITH said Abilities in Duels and/or WPvP. I'm stating how Sap is only useful ONE TIME from a Level 19 Dueling a Level 10 and then it's moot because that 19 Rogue can't use it again. Kick on a 19 is only useful against Casted Abilities that 10's don't have much of, again no Game changer there. Disengage on a 19 Hunter has absolutely no value against Ranged Level 10's in a Duel or WPvP. Sure it has a little bit of Utility against Level 10 Melee but those 10 Melee Classes can also stun that Hunter after DE with Eng Bombs then re-close that gap and continue as normal.

I can continue if you like but something tells me you just don't get it or will always see your 19's as superior regardless of what logic is tossed your way.

Sap may be useful only once in a duel, no Sap is never useful. Once > never.
Kick's usefulness in duels may be limited to certain classes/specs, no Kick isn't useful against anything. Limited > nothing.
Disengage may have limited value in a duel, no Disengage has no value. Limited > none.

Why are you implying that only 10s have access to Engineering bombs? And even if that was the case, that's when you use your trinket since most 10s don't really have any other CC to trinket.

 

[Allybeboba]

Stop flaming, I'm sick of these reports. Will continue to delete posts that I don't like.

Dory, please don't think this is directed toward you, it is in response to your post.

It is quite pathetic that people report(or tattle) on posts because they simply do not like them instead of actually reporting the posts that really need reporting. Such as ones that involve telling people to harm or kill themselves, or ones with personal insults. Or ones with racial overtones. Or even ones making fun of people with disables. Really? What kind of person would make fun of people with disabilies? Yet it takes place each and every day with imputance. Reporting so many uneeded posts only waters down the actual process of reporting and allows the ones that really should get deleted to slip through the cracks and the ones that should be deleted to be deleted. We should only be reporting posts that truly only need reporting. Be mature about this. Act your age, not your shoe size.

I was once told that this account was the most reported user on this forum and yet it has never ever broken the current or it's former CoC. That is because some of my posts are disliked by many(not all). I was also voted the websites "most hated" user in a landslide victory. The largest margin ever on any poll I might add! Yet, when I asked the pollsters why they "hated" this account I could not get any clear answers or examples.

BTW, I deserve that as a badge "The Most Hated".

Have a wonderful day everyone!

 

[DeLindsay]

BTW, I deserve that as a badge "The Most Hated".

No way you hit that milestone over me lmao.

 

[DeLindsay]

Sap may be useful only once in a duel, no Sap is never useful. Once > never.
Kick's usefulness in duels may be limited to certain classes/specs, no Kick isn't useful against anything. Limited > nothing.
Disengage may have limited value in a duel, no Disengage has no value. Limited > none.

Why are you implying that only 10s have access to Engineering bombs? And even if that was the case, that's when you use your trinket since most 10s don't really have any other CC to trinket.

Never once implied that only 10's have Eng Bombs, only used that as an example of a counter to the very few Abilities we don't have that 19's do. While I agree it's better to have a small advantage over no advantage the point of the argument is that 10's are no where even close to as useless as many in the 19 Community make us out to be. They're ENTIRE argument is that 10's are useless because 19's have a small handful of Utility/CC Abilities that we don't that I pointed out could easily be countered by said 10's, but you know reasons.

 

[Allybeboba]

No way you hit that milestone over me lmao.

Trust me son, that poll was a landslide. The "largest, one-sided poll" ever as stated by one of TI's staff members. I believe I received over 90% of the votes.
The issue really is this account does not go out of it's way to be "hated". Yet, there are many others here that go out of there way to insult and attack people. That is one thing I have never ever done.

 

[Snack]

sorry i just find this really really funny

Havn't played since the fix, but weren't 10 priests fixed?

What the hell are you talking about. I clearly stated 10 vs 19 as in 10 without Sap, Disengage, Kick, etc vs a 19 WITH said Abilities in Duels and/or WPvP. I'm stating how Sap is only useful ONE TIME from a Level 19 Dueling a Level 10 and then it's moot because that 19 Rogue can't use it again. Kick on a 19 is only useful against Casted Abilities that 10's don't have much of, again no Game changer there. Disengage on a 19 Hunter has absolutely no value against Ranged Level 10's in a Duel or WPvP. Sure it has a little bit of Utility against Level 10 Melee but those 10 Melee Classes can also stun that Hunter after DE with Eng Bombs then re-close that gap and continue as normal.

I can continue if you like but something tells me you just don't get it or will always see your 19's as superior regardless of what logic is tossed your way.

This;

Kick only matters against Casted Abilities, of which 10's don't have many.

just makes 0 sense as soon as you face someone above level 10, which is what you'll mostly do, that's why I thought you had to be talking about 10's vs 10's.

Also I never stated that 19's are massively superior, I responded to a question of 'Why do people think 19's are better than 10's?'. So please calm the fuck down. You answered the question yourself though with all your examples.

And do you truly think that being able to bomb a hunters disengage completely negates the bonus of actually having disengage yourself?...

. Act your age, not your shoe size.

So I have to act 46?

Never once implied that only 10's have Eng Bombs, only used that as an example of a counter to the very few Abilities we don't have that 19's do. While I agree it's better to have a small advantage over no advantage the point of the argument is that 10's are no where even close to as useless as many in the 19 Community make us out to be. They're ENTIRE argument is that 10's are useless because 19's have a small handful of Utility/CC Abilities that we don't that I pointed out could easily be countered by said 10's, but you know reasons.

Can we just drop it already? 19's has more abilities and in battle between two equally skilled players, the 19 should and will always win.