Math Breakdown: Rogue Weapons

[Original]

Here's a couple of the best assassination rogues world:
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I'm not sure why their gear is blue... maybe it scales to the best? I don't play endgame so not sure. It's possible they bought a boost too...

They run 1.8 but they also don't have a choice. Fast OH is how it's always been and for melee damage it's still supported as the best. Assassination is weird at this level because Mut is your burst, not Envenom. Envenom just refreshed your SnD really, the damage is horrid. When I was looking at it a huge chunk of my damage was melee, hence why I go fast OH. I think it's close enough it's up to the user.

Capt and I have been trying assas at 20, imo im never gonna play it since the dmg and playstyle are shitty, but ik some rouges who are going assa. I dont like it since you have to go 2 much crit for my liking, deviate scale belt is pretty nice though (oh wait its gfd guess it doesnt count [MENTION=17026]SPQR[/MENTION] ), Silver embossed is also pretty good, i like sentinals or screwdriver for oh, tov mh, ally is great for assas because of eyepatch. (prob wont play it since i like the glass cannon, lots of damage combat spec, but assas will have its place, i highly doubt it will be better than combat, especially with combat recieving buffs as well, but I enjoy to see spec diversity)

 

[SPQR]

Did you even read the chart? Lol

Needed info to choose between thing i waned to use, not what is bis or not.
Doomspike wasn't listed that's why i asked what it gives.

I'm pretty sure Doomspike scaled less then everything else, that's why I didn't even bother to calculate.

faster of hand it is then.

 

[Ladolce]

Talon of Vultros (Scaled to ilevel 34)
2.00 Attack Speed
16-31 Damage
6 Agility
2 Crit

lol val #1 . Hey buddy, if you want any of my old 29s and want to pay for a xfer they are yours. my warrior and pally are 30 but maybe the GM gods could smile upon you.. I know your rogue is the dopest 29 in the world probably but mine is in good shape with some great GF chants. PM me. It's the least I could do for you for everything you taught me in game!
-makethepots

 

[Mol]

Can anyone clarify if this is still up to date?

Would appreciate just a short answeer on:

BIS MH / OH for Combat and BIS MH / OH for Assasination. (Please note that i cant be arsed to farm SFang, maybe Talon of Vultros, so i need a good Substitution.)

Thank you very much (Note, Vet 20 Rogue)

 

[Leek]

Can anyone clarify if this is still up to date?

Would appreciate just a short answeer on:

BIS MH / OH for Combat and BIS MH / OH for Assasination. (Please note that i cant be arsed to farm SFang, maybe Talon of Vultros, so i need a good Substitution.)

Thank you very much (Note, Vet 20 Rogue)

lol I think balanced heartseeker or wsg dagger is decent enough

 

[Snowjobs]

bis is sf+ screw driver.

easy substitution V

loom 2.8 sword + wsg dagger

 

[Mol]

As combat, and for Assasinaton? Seeker + WSG Sword?

Vultros MH + Seeker OH is gucci for Assasination right?

 

[Björke]

Can anyone clarify if this is still up to date?

Would appreciate just a short answeer on:

BIS MH / OH for Combat and BIS MH / OH for Assasination. (Please note that i cant be arsed to farm SFang, maybe Talon of Vultros, so i need a good Substitution.)

Thank you very much (Note, Vet 20 Rogue)

Thief's Blade - Item - World of Warcraft scales to 0.01 more dps than SF

 

[Crystalpall]

Thief's Blade - Item - World of Warcraft scales to 0.01 more dps than SF

This math stuff is crazy. If anything turns out to be better than BAR for rets I won't be too surprised.

 

[Leek]

This math stuff is crazy. If anything turns out to be better than BAR for rets I won't be too surprised.

BAR is overall the best but haunting blade and sindorei warblade give more strength and have very similar damage

 

[Original]

Thief's Blade - Item - World of Warcraft scales to 0.01 more dps than SF

I highly doubt this, can you share your math?

 

[Original]

bis is sf+ screw driver.

easy substitution V

loom 2.8 sword + wsg dagger

ty for confirming

 

[Guglielmo]

This math stuff is crazy. If anything turns out to be better than BAR for rets I won't be too surprised.

i did some testing on arms warrior and Boahn's Fang back in 6.1 or 6.0 using the spreadsheet from the weapon calc thread, it turned out to be a little bit better than BAR, but the lack of stam is very punishing for the viability of it

Edit: found my old post

Boahn's Fang scales to 13 stre and 9 crit, it should be bis for glass cannon


edit: BAR sims at 554,87 infinite and 4421,31 burst, Boahn's at 561,30 and 4476,87

Boahn's Stats:
45-69 Damage (15.41 dps)
+13 Strength
+9 Critical Strike

 

[Yapah]

Can anyone clarify if this is still up to date?

Would appreciate just a short answeer on:

BIS MH / OH for Combat and BIS MH / OH for Assasination. (Please note that i cant be arsed to farm SFang, maybe Talon of Vultros, so i need a good Substitution.)

Thank you very much (Note, Vet 20 Rogue)

Combat:
SF + Screwdriver is best
2x SF is 2nd best
SF + Thief's Blade is 3rd best
SF + ToV or SF + WsG Dagger is 4th best
Heirloom Sword + Screwdriver 5th best
Heirloom Sword + SF 6th best
Heirloom Sword + Thief's Blade 7th best
Heirloom Sword + ToV or WsG Dagger 8th best

Assa:
2x ToV ( 11 + 7 version) is best
ToV + Screwdriver is 2nd best
ToV + Tail Spike or ToV + Assa Blade is 3rd best
ToV + WsG Dagger is 4th best
ToV + Heirloom Dagger is 5th best

I think this would be the best weapons for both combat and assa, someone correct me if im wrong.

 

[Yapah]

i did some testing on arms warrior and Boahn's Fang back in 6.1 or 6.0 using the spreadsheet from the weapon calc thread, it turned out to be a little bit better than BAR, but the lack of stam is very punishing for the viability of it

Edit: found my old post

Haunting Blade is 15.53 DPS 3.8 speed 13 str 9 haste, it should be better than Boahn's Fang

 

[LennywBT]

Assa:
2x ToV ( 11 + 7 version) is best
ToV + Screwdriver is 2nd best
ToV + WsG Dagger is 3rd best
ToV + Tail Spike or ToV + Assa Blade is 4th best
ToV + Doomspike is 5th best

I think this would be the best weapons for both combat and assa, someone correct me if im wrong.

As an Assassination Rogue, i see people stacking Agility and Crit in the same time.
Therefore i think ToV+Tail spike........ should be the third, in my opinion.

 

[Yapah]

As an Assassination Rogue, i see people stacking Agility and Crit in the same time.
Therefore i think ToV+Tail spike........ should be the third, in my opinion.

Yeah I think that may be better, I also switched out doomspike (5 agi 5 stam) for heirloom dagger (4 agi 5 crit 6 stam)

 

[LennywBT]

I highly doubt this, can you share your math?

I've had Jukejitsu tell me the same thing, but i am not sure. I think the shadow bolt can make a difference if it is 0.01.

Yeah I think that may be better, I also switched out doomspike (5 agi 5 stam) for heirloom dagger (4 agi 5 crit 6 stam)

Yep, good idea. Doomspike isn't as good as it used to be.

 

[Guglielmo]

Haunting Blade is 15.53 DPS 3.8 speed 13 str 9 haste, it should be better than Boahn's Fang

For the weapon swing it may be a tiny increase, but haste isn't as good as crit for dps

 

[Kageroo]

For the weapon swing it may be a tiny increase, but haste isn't as good as crit for dps

Well, for fury warr is haste probably best secondary stat (haste lowers CD of bloodthirst and cos of that, u will have more Wild Strike procs...).

EDIT: sorry, I did not see, that u were talking about arms and ret