Math Behind Enchants

[Cipe]

So for healers, would it be better to run earthen vitality to boots and pvp power to cloak? (+10% speed and 2 stam with 4pvp power)

As opposed to minor speed to boots and gift of versatility to boots? (+12% speed and 1 versaitlity)

 

[Yapah]

So for healers, would it be better to run earthen vitality to boots and pvp power to cloak? (+10% speed and 2 stam with 4pvp power)

As opposed to minor speed to boots and gift of versatility to boots? (+12% speed and 1 versaitlity)

only reason for 2% speed would be for melee or FC imo
2% speed isnt a lot tbh, id rather take 2.7% dmg 1.9% heal and 2 stam
3 stam cloak enchant is another option if you feel too squishy

 

[Zappateers]

Are you using dejacharstats to actually see your movespeed?

The specialty movespeed enchants say 8%, but still give the same 10% as minor speed.

Yea I have the add-on. For example of I use assassin's step I only have 140% in travel form, if I use minor speed I have 150%

 

[necroaqua]

Yea I have the add-on. For example of I use assassin's step I only have 140% in travel form, if I use minor speed I have 150%

The specialty boots don't provide speed in cat/travel form. In caster/bear, they provide the same 10% as minor speed.

Druids for sure want minor speed. Dunno what else this affects (ghost wolf?).

 

[DigitalChemyst]

If you happen to have the old 12 agi enchant, how would that stack up to PvP power?

 

[necroaqua]

If you happen to have the old 12 agi enchant, how would that stack up to PvP power?

12 agi all the way.

 

[Dolfie]

from which expansion is the 12 agi enchant again? and when did it become gf'd? Thanks!

 

[necroaqua]

from which expansion is the 12 agi enchant again? and when did it become gf'd? Thanks!

From a comment on wowhead, so not 100% sure on the accuracy:

"Ever since 5.4, anyone who had the 12 agility enchant on their parachute cloak before that patch hit got to keep their 12 agility enchant because it originally required a ilvl 35 item or higher to enchant, which parachute cloak is. but anyone who tried to enchant it after the patch got 9 agility. Now its far less due to scaling. Anyone who had the 12 agil on their parachute cloak before 5.4 gets to keep that number. Bad news to anyone who didn't get it."

Sounds like pre-5.4 was considered a different enchant with the ilvl requirement, so it doesnt get hit by scaling or anything.

 

[Dolfie]

From a comment on wowhead, so not 100% sure on the accuracy:

"Ever since 5.4, anyone who had the 12 agility enchant on their parachute cloak before that patch hit got to keep their 12 agility enchant because it originally required a ilvl 35 item or higher to enchant, which parachute cloak is. but anyone who tried to enchant it after the patch got 9 agility. Now its far less due to scaling. Anyone who had the 12 agil on their parachute cloak before 5.4 gets to keep that number. Bad news to anyone who didn't get it."

Sounds like pre-5.4 was considered a different enchant with the ilvl requirement, so it doesnt get hit by scaling or anything.

Too bad! , well i guess i prefer 2% movement speed anyway to most other form of stats since i mostly kite. NE racial 2% cloak 2% minor speed 10% 14% is huge when fighting 100% movement speed ppl.

 

[DigitalChemyst]

Little bit off topic here, but somewhat related. Anyone know if you can apply the Glove Reinforcements and other like enchants to soulbound items via the trade window?

 

[Goesid]

The specialty boots don't provide speed in cat/travel form. In caster/bear, they provide the same 10% as minor speed.

Druids for sure want minor speed. Dunno what else this affects (ghost wolf?).

well the 10% dont work on ghost wolf havent checked the others.

 

[Yapah]

well the 10% dont work on ghost wolf havent checked the others.

Doesnt work with cat form/travel form too
I wonder if it works for war machine, dash, or any other temporary speed boost

 

[Rusks]

Doesnt work with cat form/travel form too
I wonder if it works for war machine, dash, or any other temporary speed boost

It stacks on hunter. minor speed and the cloak and the pet give 120% move speed vs 110 with the other boot enchant

 

[necroaqua]

Little bit off topic here, but somewhat related. Anyone know if you can apply the Glove Reinforcements and other like enchants to soulbound items via the trade window?

You cannot. Hence why BoE gloves are important to many classes.

 

[Bestworld]

Swap gear depending on situation, you need to get from A-B? Swap to gift of x cloak and minor speed
You about to pwn some face? Swap to 3 agi + 7 armor / 4 pvp power and 2 agi + minor speed

 

[Yapah]

Swap gear depending on situation, you need to get from A-B? Swap to gift of x cloak and minor speed
You about to pwn some face? Swap to 3 agi + 7 armor / 4 pvp power and 2 agi + minor speed

What if you’re a lazy fuck? Which do you choose

 

[necroaqua]

What if you’re a lazy fuck? Which do you choose

Lazy combat rogues go with 2agi + speed and pvp power/shadow armor. Prob same for hunters with a slow.

Lazy druids and shamans should go with minor speed to get speed in their respective faster forms. The cloak enchant can go either way for the extra 2%, or the stats.

 

[Bestworld]

What if you’re a lazy fuck? Which do you choose

Probably 3 agi 7 armor on cloak and +2 agi + minor speed on boots for agi users.
Haven't run actual bullet proof tests on agi vs pvp power, but the 3 agi 7 armor adds a lot of value imo
3 agi for AP and dodge + 7 armor for that lil extra tankyness.

 

[Dotzi]

You do realize agility adds dodge chance? I just don't know how much at 19.

You do realize agility doesnt give dodge at all for your feral?

 

[MrRude]

I feel that Enchant Cloak: Subtlety doesn't get the love it deserves.