Lvl 20 p2p Thread!
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Swoops
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Gnomer gear and a few BiS items from quests, as well as slightly upgraded stats from BoAs and some new spells.
An additional 20% miss chance with spells is gamebreaking (as well as the additional resists on Charged Gears/Emissary Cuffs etc.). P2P 20 is still a significant advantage, but the only thing I'd consider unfair is the outrageously high hit requirement against +4 levels. Constantly missing CC is incredibly frustrating, F2Ps often don't even have the opportunity to outplay 24s because of that.
Anywho, these are my four main/favorite p2p 20s
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TaXiCaB
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hitcap?Please do not bring this bs up again
Your rune of duty got updated to 10 hit instead of spell pen,so dont even bring that topic up
ally has ellos/pvp staff/bravo signet and rune
horde has boots /pvp staff and rune
WITH Elixir of Minor Accuracy - Item - World of Warcraft YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE to say what hit is a major issue. And boot enchant if you need it that much.
Gnomer gear and emissary cuffs are nerfed to the ground, and are now equal to serrakis/d-1000 rings
Only thing i can see are very minor stats difference, other then that,20 p2p twinks and 24s are essentially the same thing
Your rune of duty got updated to 10 hit instead of spell pen,so dont even bring that topic up
ally has ellos/pvp staff/bravo signet and rune
horde has boots /pvp staff and rune
WITH Elixir of Minor Accuracy - Item - World of Warcraft YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE to say what hit is a major issue. And boot enchant if you need it that much.
Gnomer gear and emissary cuffs are nerfed to the ground, and are now equal to serrakis/d-1000 rings
Only thing i can see are very minor stats difference, other then that,20 p2p twinks and 24s are essentially the same thing
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l30t53dd6p
OG
F2P can't have 135 alch nor get 5 hit on their boots. You are confused looking at p2p 20s vs 24s and not reading that it's about F2P20s vs p2p 20s or 24s.
Winlog
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you are funny
Swoops
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My mage hit caps just fine against 24s but a f2p can't come anywhere close. Spell hit cap for 24s is 26% (48 rating). The only f2p coming close to that is a boomkin/ele shaman wearing mostly agility gear. The absolute max you can get on a f2p clothie is in the 25-30 range, which comes with a pretty significant sacrifice in stats.
Except resists, which still work and now have no counter.
Lil
SV huntard
I know atleast 5 seperate P2P 20s who I would consider extremely skillful.
I know probably around 5-10 24s who I would consider extremely skillful.
Now with that being said just look at the population difference with P2P 20s and 24s. Good players don't need to crutch on lvs. It's been proven
I know probably around 5-10 24s who I would consider extremely skillful.
Now with that being said just look at the population difference with P2P 20s and 24s. Good players don't need to crutch on lvs. It's been proven
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Trollguden
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It's been good Ladder, queing with Juno + Saint and some aggramar f2p qts Get online and lets group up for some CtA wsg!
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The Saint
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dont think you can cap a caster, unless its a class that converts spirit to hit. for a melee/hunter use a weapon chain
Snack
Salty
isn't it possible to hit cap w/o wep chain?
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The Saint
I won't like you
yeah, but i'd look and see the stat trade off between losing a weapon chant, and capping normally.
SallyG
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You can hit cap as a caster versus 24s. Just use the wep chain. And as for the lost enchant? You have to consider why you are capping in the first place. Do you not want your Fears/Polys/CS to miss? Then yes the hit far outweighs the damage lost. If you are concerned about your lolbarrage or lolimmolate missing, then you may have a tougher decision to consider.
shaabad
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Jenn
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Craks @ Draenor - Community - World of Warcraft
AGM, leg armor, finish leveling mining to 225.
Your a p2p so no excuse to not be bis geared or professions leveled to 225. Came at you.
AGM, leg armor, finish leveling mining to 225.
Your a p2p so no excuse to not be bis geared or professions leveled to 225. Came at you.
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Snack
Salty
was thinking about rogues, as they get much hit from their BoA gear, do they need wep chain, or can they get hitcapped otherwise, w/o having to sacrifice a lot of stats