liek omg ptr patch notes, rip resto druid/holy priest hunter buffsss
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Evade said:
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theres 0 reason to take a druid over a priest or paladin now in a premade x)
Yo, i have a shaman twink as well. Also just because they are bad doesnt mean that druids arent in a shite state as well. I don't see nourish healing anywhere near 300, it'll hit about the same as healing wave, 175-220.
This is utter ball bag all round other than the buff to priests.
This is utter ball bag all round other than the buff to priests.
Bankbeauty
OG
I asked the same question about Shammy resto, and the answer, CC and Purge. Shammy resto and extremely useful in Offense since they got purge and CCs, average damage and a support Heal. I think the same will happens with druid. CCs, HoTing, Moonfire (Anti-Stealth, Anti-Bandage, Damage on EFC), thorns, Bear form (re-take, Support FC) are some, and there's a lot more, reason why I see Druid resto still being effective in WSG.
Bankbeauty
OG
Kore nametooshort said:
Didn't say that, just saying that it's not the end, because it wasn't the end for shammy.
Nohealsforju
Legend
Evade said:
this made me Lol. But really wtf are they thinking. Ya we should make healing touch a level 78 ability.... GOOD IDEA!!!!!!!!
Maybe we should bring up shamans weak. Ya they kind of nerfed hunters reduced agility by 5%.
Disc may be fun lol.
I ran some numbers.... if casted on oneself it can absorb hefty amount of damage (i used my standard gear which has 162spell power)
(162x.418)+128 = 196 ( w/ damage absorb boast from talent = 215)
But this how it is in 4.0.3 so in 4.0.6 numbers we have to multiply it by the number that was give to us 208% or 2.08
Normal 196x2.08= 408 Damage
W/ +10% (not casted on oneself) 215x2.08 = 449
If casted on oneself (196x2.08)+122*= 466
*This is 30% of 408 = 122
bankbeauty said:
maybe because shamans have a lot more utility than druids at 19
bankbeauty said:
A balance druid could still do all this. All a resto druid would have over a balance would be mana regen and swiftmend, i'd rather have higher spell damage throughput in that situation. Also, i don't want to run O healer, other classes can do that better. A shaman has thunderpunt, wind shear and most importantly purge. I have inadequate CCs, mediocre dots, thorns (which is a joke, especially on O), subpar heals and repickability. I would not take a resto druid on my O.
They've butchered my class yet again, I'm not impressed.
Nohealsforju
Legend
blueisbetterthanyou said:
ya druids need more utility...
*cough* they stealth*cough* they can FC*cough* the can root*cough* they can do range DPS*cough*they can do cool HoTs*cough*
iaccidentallytwink said:
like what?
Nohealsforju said:
druids do not have unique utility like shaman do. No other class can punt off of the roof, no other class can purge (prot wars can, but they dont count and it has a CD), few other classes have a ranged interrupt and counterspell is on a long CD.
Rogue stealth is superior to ferals due to openers. Yes druids can root, but mages CC much more effectively. Their HoT is not enough to compensate for the losses any more, and regrowth and nourish are near useless and smend has a long CD and consumes a rejuv anyway.
Resto druids are broke. Other druid specs are fine, i don't care. They broke resto druids.
1 thing, sweet
shamans can too
earthbind is a lot better overall
so can shamans
they dont heal for that much its only swiftmend that heals for a lot. earthshield is good too
purge, earthbind and shock are above and beyond anything a resto druid can do. i think people really undervalue these abilities.
Holyashley
Legend
Say, a Draenei holy pally has:
1700 HP
150 SP
pre-4.0.6:
= (Level * 15 + 35 = total amount) + SP
= 320 + 150 = 470 healed
4.0.6:
= 1700 * 0.2 = 340 healed
For the heal to be better in this case, the Draenei needs at least 2350 hit points.
also:
Kore nametooshort said:
nourish heals for 164 with 110 sp at 19. just read the tooltip in ur spellbok x)
Bankbeauty
OG
Omg someone fucking punch me in the face or are all the druids saying shammy are better now?!
Thunderstorm, for your information is in the freaking Elem Build. Thanks
Thunderstorm, for your information is in the freaking Elem Build. Thanks
Karok
Legend
Kore nametooshort said:
If you're on about Resto for both classes, forget the whole Thunderpunt thing cus it's ele.
Without wanting this to turn into a i'm a worse healer than you! QQ...
Shammys got EB and purge two very nice abilities. ES is very situational.
Druids get much more mobility with insta forms, root, HoTs and stealth.
And both are left with weak primary heals though Druid has more options.
Yeah, it's bad for both.
bankbeauty said:
Im saying that purge and windshear are better than a druids utility. You would take a shaman on O for that, druids have nothing to compare.
And yah, sorry in my grief i kinda bundled ele and balance into my druid vs shamn arguments.
Bankbeauty
OG
blueisbetterthanyou said:
Not to say Druid have Bear Form, Cat Form, Stealth, HoTs.