EU+US LF best place to farm new BiS world drop blues.

[necroaqua]

What exactly do you mean by this

The only drops that exist will require level 12, 17, 22, 27, 32, 37, etc...and will have +8 ilvl from that level. It makes sense given the current data between drops that people have posted and what ilvls wowhead breaks it down into.

So something like skycaller would drop for a 19, requiring level 17 and being ilvl 25.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=12984/skycaller&bonus=3920

 

[Donor]

The only drops that exist will be for 12, 17, 22, 27, 32, 37, etc...and will have +8 ilvl from that level. It makes sense given the current data between drops that people have posted and what ilvls wowhead breaks it down into.

So something like skycaller would drop for a 19, requiring level 17 and being ilvl 25.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=12984/skycaller&bonus=3920

yeah its starting to come together into a somewhat comprehensible compilation of data

 

[Tom Ganks]

I get it now, ty
[doublepost=1519530378,1519529278][/doublepost]Something else to note, I recieved http://www.wowhead.com/item=5425/runechain-girdle on the PTR before this patch came out and got it as ilvl 26 on my lvl 20. So rare specific world drops must act like dung-specific boe drops?

 

[necroaqua]

Instance/Mob Specific blues will drop at the player's current level as the required level and will be +6 ilevels over the required level. (Max ilvl 25 @ level 19)

Something else to note, I recieved http://www.wowhead.com/item=5425/runechain-girdle on the PTR before this patch came out and got it as ilvl 26 on my lvl 20. So rare specific world drops must act like dung-specific boe drops?

Yup. Blues that are specific to a mob (ex: gloves of the fang, defias pieces, talon of vultros) or that are specific to an instance (ex: shadowfang and night reaver from SFK) follow the stereotypical dungeon scaling. I've heard drops from chests don't follow scale - not sure if that applies if you get shadowfang from a chest in SFK (or if you even can).


But basically from what Valotian posted, it sounds like BoE world drops are not better than normal dungeon drops (for ipvp). Any BoE items are for swag only (or wpvp).

 

[Donor]

swaaag

 

[necroaqua]

BTW - my previous statement about BoEs not being better only applies to 19s. For 20s, you can get ilvl 28 gear that is BiS.

 

[Donor]

i wonder if something like adventurers pith helmet can scale down to clvl 20 or 19 req

edit
something tells me we can only possibly get
holy shroud
enduring cap
frostreaver crown
sunblaze coif
as blue boe helms

 

[necroaqua]

i wonder if something like adventurers pith helmet can scale down to clvl 20 req

Might be an uldaman drop. Not sure if it has world drop BoE scaling or is just going to scale like normal.

holy shroud
enduring cap
frostreaver crown

Hard to tell from wowhead alone, but it looks like they might.

sunblaze coif

Drops off a specific mob in SM - will scale like normal dungeon gear.

I'm not sure if theres a min level for any of these. Too hard to test with how rare the drops are...

 

[icehawk]

This is for items under level 60 using the current scaling mechanics.

You may also see items with stats and required levels that are not using the scaling mechanics/are still dropping at their old levels, particularly from chests and possibly some dungeons.


World Drop BoE Weapon epics can only drop at required levels ending with 3 and 8 and will be +13 ilevels over the required level.

For example, an axe might drop at a required level of 33, 38, 43, 48 and would have ilevels of 46, 51, 56, 61 respectively.

World Drop BoE Armor epics can only drop at required levels ending in 2 and 7 and will be +13 ilevels over the required level.

Instance/Mob Specific epics will drop at the player's current level as the required level and will be +12 ilevels over the required level.

World Drop BoE Weapon blues can only drop at required levels ending in 2 or 7 and will be +8 ilevels over the required level. (Max ilvl 25 @ level 19)

World Drop BoE Armor blues can only drop at required levels ending with 0 and 5 and will be +8 ilevels over the required level. (Max ilvl 23 @ level 19)

Instance/Mob Specific blues will drop at the player's current level as the required level and will be +6 ilevels over the required level. (Max ilvl 25 @ level 19)

(Also keep in mind that there are likely minimum required levels for certain drops.)

^ This seems to be an accurate summary of the way scaling seems to work at the moment. I can confirm that these rules generally apply for at least blues farmed on a 20. Armor Blues usually always hit ilvl 28, while weapons hit ilvl 30 but require lvl 22.
Greens follow a similar set of rules. Armor generally scales to ilvl 19 while weapons to ilvl 23.
However, there do seem to be some exceptions from time to time, not sure if it's an RNG thing or just some stuff slipped through the scaling mechanics.
For example, an ilvl 25 BoE green in Gnomer (whereas almost every other Green Armor BoE has been ilvl 19).

So from time to time, something outside the scaling mechanics seems to take place. This is for straight up mob BoE drops. Chests don't scale as already mentioned.
For farming, I'd say, even at 19, just clear trash mobs in Gnomer and you should have a good chance of getting a heap of Greens with the occasional Blue. I've picked up a large amount of mogs from Gnomer recently with some cool Blues.

 

[simonoldtwink]

mehhhh

 

[Tom Ganks]

I'm Happy. Sniped this for a measly 5k. Was thinking about selling it, but worried I'd never see another on this server. Idc though, Bis is bis, and this was a hand-out.

 

[Dolfie]

This is for items under level 60 using the current scaling mechanics.

You may also see items with stats and required levels that are not using the scaling mechanics/are still dropping at their old levels, particularly from chests and possibly some dungeons.


World Drop BoE Weapon epics can only drop at required levels ending with 3 and 8 and will be +13 ilevels over the required level.

For example, an axe might drop at a required level of 33, 38, 43, 48 and would have ilevels of 46, 51, 56, 61 respectively.

World Drop BoE Armor epics can only drop at required levels ending in 2 and 7 and will be +13 ilevels over the required level.

Instance/Mob Specific epics will drop at the player's current level as the required level and will be +12 ilevels over the required level.

World Drop BoE Weapon blues can only drop at required levels ending in 2 or 7 and will be +8 ilevels over the required level. (Max ilvl 25 @ level 19)

World Drop BoE Armor blues can only drop at required levels ending with 0 and 5 and will be +8 ilevels over the required level. (Max ilvl 23 @ level 19)

Instance/Mob Specific blues will drop at the player's current level as the required level and will be +6 ilevels over the required level. (Max ilvl 25 @ level 19)

(Also keep in mind that there are likely minimum required levels for certain drops.)

Yes everything ive seen so far follows these rules, Damn! i want new BiS!
Could there be any anomalies? Like Icehawk says the greenies that drop are often not correctly scaled.. so who knows its also possible for blue/epics?

 

[Conzil]

Still dont really understand, which lvl do I have to be to drop req lvl 19 greens? Whenever I kill rares on my 19 twink I get lvl 13 gear.

 

[Donor]

i have this ss
shows a 34 loot a green boe with clvl req 29


so maybe to get gear for 19s you need a lvl 24 farm mule

 

[Conzil]

so maybe to get gear for 19s you need a lvl 24 farm mule

https://imgur.com/a/9StWn Wasn't lvl 24.

 

[Donor]

um
no

we are talking about lvl req of 19
not ilvl 19
ilvl 19 is useless for any kind of twink

gotta l2attention bro

 

[Conzil]

um
no

we are talking about lvl req of 19
not ilvl 19
ilvl 19 is useless for any kind of twink

gotta l2attention bro

I think you misunderstood what I meant, I am looking to farm req lvl 19 greens and in the post above I said lvl 24 was not the lvl to farm them at.

 

[Donor]

I think you misunderstood what I meant, I am looking to farm req lvl 19 greens and in the post above I said lvl 24 was not the lvl to farm them at.

but you linked an item of ilvl 19 req of lvl 16
u stating that you dont need a lvl 24 toon for the item you looted is irrelevant
i dont see ur point

 

[Conzil]

but you linked an item of ilvl 19 req of lvl 16
u stating that you dont need a lvl 24 toon for the item you looted is irrelevant
i dont see ur point

I said level 24 wasn't the level to farm req lvl 19 items...

 

[Donor]

I said level 24 wasn't the level to farm req lvl 19 items...

where is your evidence?
its not in your screenshot
the amount screenshots with toons whose lvls end in x4 looting items that have lvl req that ends x9 proves otherwise