killing the bracket before its even alive

[yasueh]

i would say even when its possible for trials to farm boas they should not use them (especially the weaps) there is enough burst wihtout boas + pretty unfair fopr new ppl looks like take a lot of time to farm the honor to 24: atm i dont see many but i think there will be more if this gets more active but i hope ppl wont be that unfair since trial ppl are the only reason this bracket is active

Looks like I may have a reason to complete writing my addon, 'Wargames Referee' (gave up when I quit playing paid WoW).



Basically it regularly inspects everyone in range of you on your team, along with scanning combat logs and buffs/debuffs on people, then broadcasts in a chat channel if someone's wearing a 'banned' item of gear or using 'banned' consumables.



Not much use in regular BGs, because it can only scan your own team, but for single faction wargames with a couple of people running it, it would help you enforce a few rules by saving you having to watch for people who break them. I just hope trial accounts don't restrict how it works it too much, although we seem to have got around the public channels problem well enough by making our own.



Depending on what you put in the addon's whitelists, you could even balance the classes by restricting the OP ones to gear with lower stats on it.

 

[Atychiphobia]

Looks like I may have a reason to complete writing my addon, 'Wargames Referee' (gave up when I quit playing paid WoW).



Basically it regularly inspects everyone in range of you on your team, along with scanning combat logs and buffs/debuffs on people, then broadcasts in a chat channel if someone's wearing a 'banned' item of gear or using 'banned' consumables.



Not much use in regular BGs, because it can only scan your own team, but for single faction wargames with a couple of people running it, it would help you enforce a few rules by saving you having to watch for people who break them. I just hope trial accounts don't restrict how it works it too much, although we seem to have got around the public channels problem well enough by making our own.



Depending on what you put in the addon's whitelists, you could even balance the classes by restricting the OP ones to gear with lower stats on it.

That would be really really cool actually.

 

[yasueh]

Might be a bit harder to do when I'm not paying for several accounts for testing.



Actually who am I kidding. I can just make more trials. Might need some help to get them into wargames though.



Just pray I don't get it in my head to multibox them, although it would be fun to go 5x disc priest or balance druid on the 24s





I'll see if I can get back to the addon. F2P WoW is really only something to do while I'm playing EVE and stuck in station during wars, waiting for a PvP fleet to form (we can't PvE in my corp when we've had a war declared on us, as it gives the enemy easy targets).



I did buy the addon writing book just before I quit paid WoW though, so I'd like to get some use out of it.

 

[Geekdup]

2 problems i see are:

ppl just want to grind honor atm heared things like " dont cap 3. flag we can get more honor for gy farming" + most if you compare class choice i think there are much more hunts and prot pals then in 19 prolly cause ppl dont wanna start a class wich isnt that strong since you need to do alot to get bis as a trial



i would say even when its possible for trials to farm boas they should not use them (especially the weaps) there is enough burst wihtout boas + pretty unfair fopr new ppl looks like take a lot of time to farm the honor



to 24: atm i dont see many but i think there will be more if this gets more active but i hope ppl wont be that unfair since trial ppl are the only reason this bracket is active

BoA's are fine. Any trial account has access to them. I've got a bigger problem with even a level 21 in the bg than a f2p 20 with max BoA. At least your not doing anything all the other trial 20s can't do if they decide they want to. But giving yourself an advantage that most of the ppl in the bracket don't even have ACCESS to (higher levels / spells / gear)... now there's just no honor in that.

 

[yasueh]

Gear you can take off to be accepted into F2P-gear only wargames. Levels and the abilities that come with them you can't.

 

[Parfait]

I just left yet another WSG where alliance were GY camping. I don't get why in the world blizzard changed the graveyards like that. I just told everyone to leave. If alliance want to make their queue times even worse and possible kill the bracket, so be it. I for one probably shouldn't be getting back into this game anyway.



I have just recently made a 20 rogue, still needs to finish gearing, to rape hunters. I don't plan on attacking helpless classes like locks and druids, but have no problems with hunters, paladins, warriors, mages and other rogues. I am unsure about priests and shaman. I'm thinking those 2 can stand a chance vs a rogue.

 

[yasueh]

I haven't played a WSG since the GY change went live, and I'm expecting it to be pretty much game-breaking.





One team can put their melee in the GY, a couple of healers for the melee and their ranged classes at max distance, and put the rest of the healers well back to heal the ranged and the melee healers.



The other team all spawn in one spot where their healers can get primaried with no defensive options at all, their stealth classes have too small an area to get out past the attackers and keep stealth, and to top it all off they spawn at 30 second intervals, so the attackers have plenty of time to get in position to take them down, even with fewer numbers to do it.







Anyone who says 'outplayed' regarding that set-up is a first class retard deserving assisted Darwinism, courtesy of being beaten to death with a copy of Sun-Tzu's 'The Art of War', because they obviously don't know the first damn thing about terrain advantage, just like the s***-eater who changed the GY in the first place.





Hopefully some ground rules can be layed down for wargames, otherwise the whole F2P bracket could go tits up faster than a drowning fat man with a rucksack full of bricks.

 

[Orebrb]

Ya, I feel like I am killing the bracket and i have only been playing 3-4 days. I am a lev 24 twink hunter and I usually go something like 30-2 with capping all the flags, its easy.



I have spawn camped quite a bit over the past few days and it gets boring so I just try to end the games quicker lately.



i had one horde the other day go literally 0-34(while still trying to play and move at spawn). its funny, but it will kill the bracket.



I think the change cant be made from the players themselves, because people will do what they do. I think the change has to come from the game itself, how about some spawn protection or something. it doesnt really make sense to spawn on a weird little hill, why not give them an enclosure or somethin.

Haha Bunny771 <3 #1

 

[shabaman]

im extremely temped to faction change my lvl 24 prot pally tohorde to help them get started but i dont have 25$ to change it yet

Fourtynine @ Medivh - Game - World of Warcraft

hes pretty close to BiS

 

[bunny771]

Last night was amazing. 6 minute queue times, and I faced three level 24 hunters with three level 20 healers.



We still won, but it was a really fun game.



We need more level 24's to twink for the bracket, because P2P play more often than F2P. More twinks means less 35 minute queues. The level 20's are not too bad with some support.

 

[Lawlpurge]

If you haven't realized bunny is a shitty troll, you're an idiot.

I remember 9th grade vacation, Bunny, don't you have a summer camp to go to buddy?

 

[bunny771]

If you haven't realized bunny is a shitty troll, you're an idiot.

I remember 9th grade vacation, Bunny, don't you have a summer camp to go to buddy?

Everyone with a differing opinion isn't a troll. If you wish to discuss a point I said, just quote me and say why you disagree. That is how normal people react, rather than just saying everything is a troll.

 

[Nickolas]

If you haven't realized bunny is a shitty troll, you're an idiot.

I remember 9th grade vacation, Bunny, don't you have a summer camp to go to buddy?

Dont you mean curley

 

[R Prime]

just quote me

I am killing the bracket

I am a lev 24 twink hunter

I have spawn camped quite a bit

its funny, but it will kill the bracket.

I think the change cant be made from the players themselves

change has to come from the game itself



Terrible troll or person - you make the call.



I am killing the bracket

and

I think the change cant be made from the players themselves



=contradiction.

 

[Enno]

It's just sad to be honest.

 

[Mocha]

Worst case scenario here...

Im saying never gy farm.

Fixt.

And the only time I /afk out of a gy farm is when it's my side and after I bitch at them with 5 minutes of macro spamming... "Get the fuck away from the ally gy." x82374678234 times.



The smart ones simply don't get farmed. For strategies against being farmed, visit's Mocha's "Unfarmable" Guide.



Mocha's "Unfarmable" Guide:

Don't rez.

 

[bunny771]

I am killing the bracket

I am a lev 24 twink hunter

I have spawn camped quite a bit

its funny, but it will kill the bracket.

I think the change cant be made from the players themselves

change has to come from the game itself



Terrible troll or person - you make the call.



I am killing the bracket

and

I think the change cant be made from the players themselves



=contradiction.

It's not a contradiction.



In order to invoke drastic change for level 24's to reroll and make level 20's, it would require everyone to do it. The players(everyone) will not make this change, ever. Every level 24 will NOT make a level 20 just to make the bracket balanced. The change has to come from the game itself. I suggested raising the trial level cap to level 24, so that they are the top of the bracket.



If , in theory, I rerolled a level 20, it would not mean that the bracket is fixed, it would require every single level 24 to reroll.

 

[Rivfader]

Everyone was rolling 20s until this forum became aware of the activity and potential for being OP again like in vanilla days. Now the player base is rolling 24s so that they can faceroll once more.

 

[R Prime]

It's not a contradiction.



In order to invoke drastic change for level 24's to reroll and make level 20's, it would require everyone to do it. The players(everyone) will not make this change, ever. Every level 24 will NOT make a level 20 just to make the bracket balanced. The change has to come from the game itself. I suggested raising the trial level cap to level 24, so that they are the top of the bracket.



If , in theory, I rerolled a level 20, it would not mean that the bracket is fixed, it would require every single level 24 to reroll.

So you're promoting GY farming and 24s and the F2P 20 forum? How is that not trolling?



And the contradiction is you claim to be killing (read: changing) the bracket but then go on to say "I think the change cant be made from the players themselves".



Hey man - you asked for quotes. Ya got 'em. I guess we don't see eye to eye on this or you're a decent troll and this is all then pretty funny.

 

[bunny771]

So you're promoting GY farming and 24s and the F2P 20 forum? How is that not trolling?



And the contradiction is you claim to be killing (read: changing) the bracket but then go on to say "I think the change cant be made from the players themselves".



Hey man - you asked for quotes. Ya got 'em. I guess we don't see eye to eye on this or you're a decent troll and this is all then pretty funny.

Are we even talking about the same change? One person rerolling from a 24 to a 20 will not effect the bracket.(one person changing will not create a significant change in the bracket)



I know you guys want to use contradiction, but I haven't contradicted myself.