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I think Rance in 19s proved pretty effectively what a warrior with a holy priest healbot is capable of. Well-played warriors with proper support do unbelieveably well.
 
Rance proved what any class could do with a mage and a pocket healer. He is good though, I've seen him get out of jams flying solo.



Dual wielding survivability is actually worth noting- consuming Bloodthirst stacks. While 4k healing doesn't LOOK impressive, that's 4 life bars unbuffed for me.

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You are pretty damn good. There was a few 1 on 1's I had with you that I couldn't get any heals off for some reason
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Well anyways these guys haven't seen you play and I don't know why they are giving you such a hard time.
 
ThaCarter said:
Rogues are not a counter to hunters that are smart (ie spec BM). You can intim the opener, DE, scatter the trinket and then kite to kill. True counters to hunters are either a really lucky arcane mage (if hunter is geared, it won't happen) or a disc priest. Holy pally/RSham can, but it's really up to luck. If you don't heal at the right time, hunters can hit you for 600+ in a global and drop you.
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Um srry but smart rogues wouldnt let that happen. KK so u intimidate then DE....Then he can Shadowstep into you. He prob already then put up a crip poison proc and did quite a big of dmg. If you scatter next he can jsut trinket and kill. Try to kite with con shot at that range? Ty sprint. Rlly with hunters and rogues its a battle for range. The winner of that is the winner of the duel/bg fight/etc
 
Rogues are pretty easy to kill with hunters. thats all there is too it. with scatter it is easy enough to get range on a rogue. scatter, trinket poison, run away, conc, serpent, so they cant vanish, then if they sprint at you you still have disengage. not to mention whatever pet you are using. Snatch if they get close, or web to keep them afar. or stun from a wasp, as long as you have a utility pet than its easy to beat rogues every time even without intimidation.
 
Wait, how did this become rogue vs hunter? The idea of "counters"?



Any sequence that can only be performed once every 5 minutes, due to trinket cd, is hardly a "counter."



OT, Will moved warrior up on my list of next toons to gear.
 
Deadvulcano said:
Wait, how did this become rogue vs hunter? The idea of "counters"?



Any sequence that can only be performed once every 5 minutes, due to trinket cd, is hardly a "counter."



OT, Will moved warrior up on my list of next toons to gear.
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If you dont mind alliance the nelf racial gives you like twice as much ToT
 
Starup said:
Um srry but smart rogues wouldnt let that happen. KK so u intimidate then DE....Then he can Shadowstep into you. He prob already then put up a crip poison proc and did quite a big of dmg. If you scatter next he can jsut trinket and kill. Try to kite with con shot at that range? Ty sprint. Rlly with hunters and rogues its a battle for range. The winner of that is the winner of the duel/bg fight/etc
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I don't understand.. you just read the part of my post you wanted to and moved on? Is that what happened? I pre-empted what you wrote.. He SSteps DE into a full Scatter, if he pops sprint you can use ANY of the pet abilities (Sting, Ham, Bat Shriek) if he even gets to you. Crippling falls off by the time you scatter, and if you're good at predicting the sstep won't let them hit you. Again, I'll beat most rogues on my very undergeared hunter. I can't imagine what a fully geared one can do.
 
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