Is there a class/spec that can consistently beat Hunters?

[Earlwing]

So, Alliance Hunterz can kill horde puggerz? WUT IS DIS MADNESS. Try that in a premade, where people support their healers.

 

[24nubsdie]

So, Alliance Hunterz can kill horde puggerz? WUT IS DIS MADNESS. Try that in a premade, where people support their healers.

alliance pug hunter

also max range > scatter cuz if u dont interrupt u get more damage done so you can take a SS at the end of the game and make it look like ur a pro by doing alot of damage when you post the SS on twinkinfo like a lot of people do

 

[Mysticum]

As a rogue the only 20 class i cant clearly kill is paladins every specs, i just cant outdps them. But i have my chance on attacking hunters alone and at least 50% chance of win. On my war and sham alts, i got more problems dealing with hunters even with agm.

In my experience of what i saw in wsg, priests, pallys and rogues can be a pain for hunters, happened of having won even if enemies got a 24s hunters if we have these classes and they know how to play.

Ppl say hunters are op and yes, prolly they are compared to some other classes, but i havent had that huge problem with that...

 

[Arknoodle]

As a rogue the only 20 class i cant clearly kill is paladins every specs, i just cant outdps them. But i have my chance on attacking hunters alone and at least 50% chance of win. On my war and sham alts, i got more problems dealing with hunters even with agm.

In my experience of what i saw in wsg, priests, pallys and rogues can be a pain for hunters, happened of having won even if enemies got a 24s hunters if we have these classes and they know how to play.

Ppl say hunters are op and yes, prolly they are compared to some other classes, but i havent had that huge problem with that...

Playing as a fellow stealther I understand your views since we are able to choose our battles and where our appearance will be most helpful.



However I have to say that having played as a non stealther also hunters are in fact OP. It's a whole nother world when they can pick you off from a distance with (in the case of a skilled hunter) ease.

 

[Geist]

As a rogue the only 20 class i cant clearly kill is paladins every specs, i just cant outdps them. But i have my chance on attacking hunters alone and at least 50% chance of win. On my war and sham alts, i got more problems dealing with hunters even with agm.

In my experience of what i saw in wsg, priests, pallys and rogues can be a pain for hunters, happened of having won even if enemies got a 24s hunters if we have these classes and they know how to play.

Ppl say hunters are op and yes, prolly they are compared to some other classes, but i havent had that huge problem with that...

kinda helps when you have access to alliance gear and play vs hunter which you outgear simply because of faction

 

[SabXXX]

Wait, what?



Moth is silence, Intimidate is stun, Scatter is disorient. None of them DR each other, as far as I know. Open with Arcane + Kill Command to break shield (plus dent HP), then Scatter into Steady, Intimidate into Steady, Silence into more Arcane + KC. If nothing crits, you are still probably at 2k damage without a single chance to cast.

You would have to test it yourself, I can't remember exactly what people called it.



I was refering to someone elses post about BM + wasp / bat about the DR, Moth is definiely the best choice. After the Intim the priest can fear the pet before attempting to cast a heal to prevent it from being interrupted. The chance it gets resisted is pretty high, though >.>. I haven't actually seen my fear get resisted by hunter pets, but I've seen it enough on my mage's pollymorph for it to be a valid concern. I keep bubble up as much as I can, so by the time the fight gets to this point, weakened soul is probably about to go away / already gone. If you're going to try a 100 - 0 stunlock, a monkey would probably be a better choice.



I know people don't like to consider the trinket in these debates, but that also breaks the stunlock.

 

[Freeranged]

You would have to test it yourself, I can't remember exactly what people called it.



I was refering to someone elses post about BM + wasp / bat about the DR, Moth is definiely the best choice. After the Intim the priest can fear the pet before attempting to cast a heal to prevent it from being interrupted. The chance it gets resisted is pretty high, though >.>. I haven't actually seen my fear get resisted by hunter pets, but I've seen it enough on my mage's pollymorph for it to be a valid concern. I keep bubble up as much as I can, so by the time the fight gets to this point, weakened soul is probably about to go away / already gone. If you're going to try a 100 - 0 stunlock, a monkey would probably be a better choice.



I know people don't like to consider the trinket in these debates, but that also breaks the stunlock.

The silence goes off before the Intimidate even ends. There would be no gap in control for you to rebubble.



And yea, trinket is kind of pointless to consider because of the 5 min CD, and the ability of the hunter to kite until his 1min is back up again.

 

[SabXXX]

The silence goes off before the Intimidate even ends. There would be no gap in control for you to rebubble.



And yea, trinket is kind of pointless to consider because of the 5 min CD, and the ability of the hunter to kite until his 1min is back up again.

Serenty Dust isn't a blancket silence, it interrupts for 4 seconds.

 

[Freeranged]

Serenty Dust isn't a blancket silence, it interrupts for 4 seconds.

Oh, well, that throws off everything I assumed about BM Moth.



BM Monkey 4 life!

 

[Mysticum]

kinda helps when you have access to alliance gear and play vs hunter which you outgear simply because of faction

Roll horde rogue and prove yourself that hunters are killable anyway, dont think the eyepatch do that sick difference...

 

[Mrcer]

Any class can beat a hunter, but hunters are stupid OP no matter how you look at it.



Let ally play their rogues/hunters while horde premades.

 

[VCheetah]

In my opinion horde is rolling just as many hunters. Please dont just assume Ally does it.I ran into a team of 6 horde hunters last night which really pissed me off. They take a lot of fun away from the game. Its not because i play a hunter either as I will probly never roll one simply because its too easy...

 

[C O T U S]

there is no class that an reliably seek out 1v1s against hunters in battlegrounds at 20 and have it be a net profitable situation. this is really what the OP is asking, not which classes can beat hunters in a duel.



if you are looking for a class at 20 that can seek out fights at all times in all situations and always be able to go in with an expectation of winning.....roll a hunter

 

[Will]

I hunt down hunters on my war and have a 70% success Rate. I'd put it at an 90% success rate for Priests. Of coarse, I'm coming up with these numbers from a battlegrounds standpoint alone.



I've seen a lot of horde warriors lately, I've seen people say "Wow, I want to roll warrior" When they see us toping the charts and taking down hunters. This is a good thing and hopefully we can see it more with warlocks as well. Some of the more unrepresented classes bring a better balance to the bracket. I haven't seen hunter's being much of a problem lately. Yesterday we made Ungorojoe AFK.

 

[VCheetah]

I hunt down hunters on my war and have a 70% success Rate. I'd put it at an 90% success rate for Priests. Of coarse, I'm coming up with these numbers from a battlegrounds standpoint alone.



I've seen a lot of horde warriors lately, I've seen people say "Wow, I want to roll warrior" When they see us toping the charts and taking down hunters. This is a good thing and hopefully we can see it more with warlocks as well. Some of the more unrepresented classes bring a better balance to the bracket. I haven't seen hunter's being much of a problem lately. Yesterday we made Ungorojoe AFK.

Haha I do want to roll a warrior lol

 

[Kearbear]

I've seen a lot of horde warriors lately, I've seen people say "Wow, I want to roll warrior" When they see us toping the charts and taking down hunters. This is a good thing and hopefully we can see it more with warlocks as well. Some of the more unrepresented classes bring a better balance to the bracket.

Not going to happen with resto/balance druids tho

Only way to counter a hunter I've found on my resto is to ruuuunrunawaaay.

 

[Will]

Boomkins aren't viable in this bracket other than utility, and their utility is granted to every other druid spec. I've seen maybe two Boomkin's in this bracket, and only one of them was twinked, and I still tore through him like paper even though he seemed as if he were skill capped. But that's World of Warcraft for you. When it comes to certain classes it's just rock/paper/scissors, from the 14 bracket to the 85 bracket.

 

[Mrcer]

In my opinion horde is rolling just as many hunters. Please dont just assume Ally does it.I ran into a team of 6 horde hunters last night which really pissed me off. They take a lot of fun away from the game. Its not because i play a hunter either as I will probly never roll one simply because its too easy...

I was refering to Aerie Peak, the most active hunters on Aerie peak that I can actually think of are



earl's hunter

felix

biggie

hottaco



that's it. regardless if horde has just as many hunters(which is not true seeing how there's a much larget amount of people on ally than horde) there are not as many hunters on Aerie Peak as some other classes(Shamans and mages)

 

[Geist]

Roll horde rogue and prove yourself that hunters are killable anyway, dont think the eyepatch do that sick difference...

this is my Rogue (Schicksal, EU/Dentarg)



its not only about the eyepatch, Alliance has more hp, hit cap for free (horde pug is rarely hitcapped and if you are you'll have to sacrifice dps or even more hp), more AP, 1 free profession since you dont need the goggles, more everything. And dont get me started on racials



its also about the ease with which you aquire the gear advantage. Its not not even about BiS vs BiS, but about the fact the the average imba class is way better geared on alliance compared to horde (which leads to even more kids rolling alliance hunter, which creates a positive feedback loop)



the difference is huge

 

[Mysticum]

this is my Rogue (Schicksal, EU/Dentarg)



its not only about the eyepatch, Alliance has more hp, hit cap for free (horde pug is rarely hitcapped and if you are you'll have to sacrifice dps or even more hp), more AP, 1 free profession since you dont need the goggles, more everything. And dont get me started on racials



its also about the ease with which you aquire the gear advantage. Its not not even about BiS vs BiS, but about the fact the the average imba class is way better geared on alliance compared to horde (which leads to even more kids rolling alliance hunter, which creates a positive feedback loop)



the difference is huge

I agree with your points, maybe we arent understanding each other... I was only saying that yes, hunters got advandage and if alliance too more advantage, but ally hunters still are beatable by horde rogue sometimes. The thread was starting with the idea of hunters unkillable 1vs1 and i think is false.