Is the PvP trink BiS?

Is the PvP trink BiS?

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Everyone is making it seem like you can use the trinket 10 times a bg.. You can only use it 4 times per bg. When you start needing a trinket to get out of every fear and popping it every chance you have you MAKE IT BIS. I used to go with a trinket/agm until I started realizing I'm wasting a spot for something I can only use 5 times per bg instead of a trinket that I use every shot, every second, every auto attack.

Please don't make it seem like the trinket will save you in every situation and everytime it will be game changing.. If you aren't getting CC'd more then once every 5 minutes then something is wrong. I don't understand how my own setup maximizes my survival?? How does 2 haste trinkets instead of 1 haste and 1 trinket help my survival at all?

PvP trinket is definitely helpful and I'm not going to lie and say there aren't a couple bgs where I wish I had one but I don't understand how i can get bashed so much for not using one when you have 4 chances to use one per bg AT MOST. Whatever though like I said I'm the minority and I knew me speaking my mind would get insults like
but ofc huntards like big numberz
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So I'll continue to not be BiS :)
 
Lillhunter said:
4 chances to use one per bg AT MOST.
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It doesn't matter how many times you can use it. It's how/when you do use it which makes it BiS.

Example:

Sitting with FC in FR, she has stacks. Winning by last cap only. They have 2xRogues coming for FC. You get sapped. FC gets double opened, she survives, barely. Sure you can RoS, maybe disarm if you have one handy, but you are still sapped. No trinket means it's the FC versus 2, means she probably is gonna die, means you lose because you needed that lolAGM or lolHaste. Trinket means you pop it, hit your Scatter/Intim/Concus, buy her time or at least get into position for a scroll.

Substitute Rogue with any other class and the situation remains the same. You ultimately stand by and do nothing as you lose the game. You aren't able to peel, you aren't able to re-pick. You do nothing. But at least you have +12 more stamina or +6 more haste.

I can think of oodles more scenarios (which do happen) where you need to trinket. I'm not talking about 1v1. Who gives a crap about 1v1 in a BG. I'm talking about team situations where you need those peels, where sitting in non-DR'd poly/fear will lose you a game. Where eating that HoJ costs you a return/cap. Where being CC'd causes undue stress on healers and/or makes others die.

In a team situation, unless you are a gnome/UD Mage, you better be wearing that trinket.
 
Lillhunter said:
Please don't make it seem like the trinket will save you in every situation and everytime it will be game changing.. If you aren't getting CC'd more then once every 5 minutes then something is wrong. I don't understand how my own setup maximizes my survival?? How does 2 haste trinkets instead of 1 haste and 1 trinket help my survival at all?

PvP trinket is definitely helpful and I'm not going to lie and say there aren't a couple bgs where I wish I had one but I don't understand how i can get bashed so much for not using one when you have 4 chances to use one per bg AT MOST. Whatever though like I said I'm the minority and I knew me speaking my mind would get insults like


So I'll continue to not be BiS :)
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i have a p2p us acc atm, im on bleeding hollow. pop over and ill learn you to pvp, you're clearly lost if you think you pop your trinket on any cc every 5mins.

change both trinkets and ya gloves and gz, you're bis :)
 
SallyG said:
In a team situation
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Unless you are facing a premade this RARELY happens.

Not taking off from your example though as I know it happens when you are facing smart people. heck I'm sure you and swoops have done this to me before plenty of times but you also know my haste and .5s quicker shots has helped me kill efcs or anyone plenty of times also. You know my playstyle and I thought you and swoops of all people would realize in MY playstyle PvP isn't BiS.

Edit: Saint, I've been farming for foremans for like 2 hours a day when PvP is bad but they aren't dropping. I'm trying to get them to do tests to see how much of a difference they actually make but I gotta get them first
 
The Saint said:
i have a p2p us acc atm, im on bleeding hollow. pop over and ill learn you to pvp, you're clearly lost if you think you pop your trinket on any cc every 5mins.

change both trinkets and ya gloves and gz, you're bis :)
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Lol I can imagine trying to tell my 2400 rbg or arena team that I won't use insignia because I can only use it every now and then.



This should not even be a thread lol
 
If u have pocket healer(s) no need for that trinket but my healer(s) better have lol
 
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Lillhunter said:
Unless you are facing a premade this RARELY happens.

Not taking off from your example though as I know it happens when you are facing smart people. heck I'm sure you and swoops have done this to me before plenty of times but you also know my haste and .5s quicker shots has helped me kill efcs or anyone plenty of times also. You know my playstyle and I thought you and swoops of all people would realize in MY playstyle PvP isn't BiS.

Edit: Saint, I've been farming for foremans for like 2 hours a day when PvP is bad but they aren't dropping. I'm trying to get them to do tests to see how much of a difference they actually make but I gotta get them first
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i dont see a play style where 6 haste is better than peeling your fc/healer, or geting out of a cc and landing the kb on the efc, im sorry i just cant.

edit: im just wandering, what dps does 6 haste even add?
 
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Lillhunter said:
Unless you are facing a premade this RARELY happens.
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WSG is a team environment and a team game. It may not always be the most cohesive team, but that is neither here nor there. I always play with that in mind and maybe that's where we differ. I like Superman-ing as much as the next person, but I prefer and am always grateful when I don't have to go at it alone.

We are going to have to agree to disagree about the trinket. I can't budge on it, playstyle or not :) Trinketing at the right time is clutch.
 
I don't even know how one can justify sitting in a potential 8 second CC just to gain 6 haste.

I am almost sure that you don't even gain dps from it since you would lose more damage during those 8 seconds than you gain from your haste trinket, even if you were shooting for 5 minutes straight.
 
Verx said:
Personally I think 1 AGM and ressi trink is best even on human
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Depends on your hp, for BiS FC's it's always bis tho :)

(edit: derp, for bis it's bis... well I think you know what I mean)
 
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if you have agm and trinket isnt it logical to use both? Why debate whether which one to carry all the time. Anticipate hoj or other cc with a cd tracker. If you see a pally with HoJ off cd then you can trinket out or pop agm before getting stunned.
/shrug
 
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