Goesid
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they are pretty accurate in good gear.
Is playing as a Hunter bad? (and some other questions)
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they are pretty accurate in good gear.
oosstt
Legend
500 lb non crits?
Mesikämmen
pwner
400-500 crit, 250 ES crit. Want screenshots?
oosstt
Legend
No thanks. I have a geared Shaman, but I'm talking about non-rng numbers. ~250 every 2 seconds, when you can free cast, non crits. It's not as strong as everyone cries about. It's the burst you can get every ~15 casts that people cry about. Because a full stack on fulm CAN 1 shot anything in the bracket with lucky numbers. Not arguing that, just saying it's not as strong as people want to whine about. I'd personally rather have a good Resto Shaman than a good Ele, and a good Destro or Arcane to take his place.
Goesid
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pwner
Ele is up there with balancedruids, hunters, protpalas when it comes to dmg. Unless the hunter/bdruid is tabdotting a lot, eleshammy can outdps.
The bullshit about "if u dont have fulmi, you do bad dmg" is bullshit. "If someone jumps you at 0 stacks you cant do anything" bullshit. "arcane shot makes same dmg as healing surge heals" bullshit
oosstt
Legend
Lol, hunters can crit 400 arcane shots. Plus their over 100 white damage auto attacks. Plus the strongest DoT in the bracket. If they burst you, and get a few crits, you're FORCED into healbot mode. They scatter your almost finished heal, you're dead. If not, he got a trinket, or an AGM.
Goesid
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Ele beats hunter but the it's gonna be by the hair.
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pwner
F2P hunters don't crit nearly 400s without berserking or max buffs + world buffs like +30 stats, or unless you're fcing and got +3stacks.
If they burst you, you LoS and go healbot mode for the time they blow all their focus, after that you've won the fight given another opponent doesn't run in and start dpsing you like mad. Obviously you're forced into healbot mode for a few seconds when a hunter dumps their focus on you, every class with heals is forced into that. Pop astral shift or other cds if you need to, and it should be an easy fight.
What would he use his trinket for rofl? Thunderstorm snare? AGM can be purged or 1-shot, that's not a problem. 1v1ng a hunter takes a bit more time than some other classes but is definitely doable, why the fuck are you still making me go through all of this all over again?
Whisp me if you need some more tips on ele
oosstt
Legend
I'm not seeing it. I had ~25% crit on my non-boa hunter, critting 400s with arcane shot, getting over 100 sting ticks, you get 2! arcane shot crits, if that ele isn't spamming heal by then he's 100% dead. If he is, you just scatter, and dump the rest of your focus. If you don't kill him, disengage, and mount. Assuming you use the root, which you should be.
oosstt
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F2P hunters don't crit nearly 400s without berserking or max buffs + world buffs like +30 stats, or unless you're fcing and got +3stacks.
If they burst you, you LoS and go healbot mode for the time they blow all their focus, after that you've won the fight given another opponent doesn't run in and start dpsing you like mad. Obviously you're forced into healbot mode for a few seconds when a hunter dumps their focus on you, every class with heals is forced into that. Pop astral shift or other cds if you need to, and it should be an easy fight.
What would he use his trinket for rofl? Thunderstorm snare? AGM can be purged or 1-shot, that's not a problem. 1v1ng a hunter takes a bit more time than some other classes but is definitely doable, why the fuck are you still making me go through all of this all over again?
Whisp me if you need some more tips on ele
See, i KNEW this is what you were doing. Lol. You're trying to prove you're a better-than-average ele.
I wasn't talking about HIS trinkets, I'm talking about the shamans. YOU should trinket if he's bursting you and gets the late scatter and you're about to die, same with AGM.
A few other things. I was thinking the other talent. If you're using Astral Shift, HMU for lessons. This said hunter isn't forced to fight you if he doesn't want to, and WILL get away if he's decent.
ISO some armories with end game rating before you try to prove youre good. I'm just talking theory crafting, but since you want to act like you're good at the game. just LMK man. I got my armory ready.
darkspearwow1
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aaand that's where your strongest point comes in-purge. Paladins bring in strong instants, inability to crit and a long stun, druids bring in retarded amounts of healing+being unchatchable and shamans bring in decent heals and the ability to purge off druid heals/agm/wind shear. Every healing class mentioned above can outheal 2 hunters and cant be bursrted by a sub rogue in ambush/evis combo. Priests are the only ones left in shit and do almost nothing.
Everything in this bracket is related to how well can each class deal with hunters, boomkins hpals, sub rogues.
Can it heal? Yes
Does it have a 900 armor shield? Yes
It doesn't wear cloth ? Yes
Does have some sort of mobility? Yes
Does it do decent damage ? Yes
Based on these questions, any class that passes them with 5/5 should do alright in this bracket
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pwner
First of all, no you don't crit 400s with arcane as unbuffed f2p. Even if you use rootspec, you can't instantly mount up and gtfo. Why should you be using the rootspec when you can kite everything without the root, and without posthaste you can't keep up with druids who have a clue? Also, breaking root/snares with disengage can be pretty nice. Why rootspec?
Also, why are you bringing up 90s when we are talking about 20-24? I've got 1,75k ach, I don't really play endgame. How does playing a fotmcomp @ 90 to reach high rating relate to being good at a certain class @ 20?
You are taking it to ad hominems, please stop and deal with the fact that ele is totally viable, can 1v1 a hunter with ease and is one of the strongest classes.
I never said I'm good at ele, I told you how to beat a hunter 1v1, it's not hard (due to class mechanics, not my personal skill.), and I assume you didn't know how to do it. Your arguments failed so now you bring up how you're good at other stuff and that I've probably never played arena and all that shit. What next, you tell me I'm gay and you don't even care what I say? Or just "LOL I WAS JUST TROLLING UMAD?"
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oosstt
Legend
Lol. LMK a toon on AP, and I'll fight you on my Priest.
See, hardly anybody in this bracket knows what they're talking about. They've beaten 1 shit player of each class, and they're like YEAH I GOT DIS.
Hunter = VERY low skill floor, easy to learn. VERY high skill cap, you can spot GOOD hunters apart from shit hunters VERY easily.
Paladin = REALLY strong single target healer/damage dealer. Has stun on 1m cd, can dispell.
Druid = Best group healer in the game, can keep an entire group full hp in fights, has no kill potential to help kill anything though.
Rogue = HUGE burst in opener, if it doesn't kill something, and isn't NE, it's dead when it comes out of stealth.
Priest = Probably highest skill cap out of any class at any point in the game. Most priests are absolute shit. But other priests can beat anything else. Maybe other than a Shaman depending on how good the Shaman is.
Shaman = Decent damage, takes a long time to build it up. Spend most of your time purging and shearing, if not, you're a garbage Shaman, regardless of spec. If you're topping charts, you're a bad shaman, because you're NOT using purge right. Resto is VERY strong because of purge and shear, but most Resto Shaman suck in the bracket, because most don't know what shear does. Enh is the weakest of the specs, but is still really good, you lose less globals from purging, so you're literally a purge bot that chases shit down in wolf form shocking shit.
Warlock = Destro does the highest single target short term burst damage. But once it's down, you're stuck with DoTing with a cast bar, and casting mediocre damage waiting for 2 stacks. Demo has REALLY good mobility, decent damage, but mainly for its survivability. Affliction is REALLY good, just most people don't know what they're talking about so they insist it sucks, like enh.
Mage = Probably one of the strongest classes in the bracket. Has a HUGE lock out on a short cd, can blink out of stuns, can do some of the highest burst in the bracket as arcane, can 2 shot things as fire, and you CAN'T catch a good frost mage. Don't forget sheep, which can't be dispelled until like level 36 or soemthing.
THINK I GOT MOST OF EM.
oosstt
Legend
Lol, see this is what I'm saying. YOU'RE the hunter chasing druids. You won't catch/kill a druid WITH posthaste. And because its a ROOT. That ROOTS them. While jumping you REALLY far away. That can't be DISPELLED. So they're STUCK in that ROOT for the entire time. And yes, damn near 400's with arcane shot.
Goesid
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oosstt
Legend
I'm saying you won't catch a druid regardless. I'm saying the root is for everything else. It doesn't matter what spec you take as a hunter, you're not going to catch/kill a druid with it, so you may as well take the most useful for the rest of the classes you come in contact with. Not saying a druid can't shift out of your root.
Denurd
Guest
Nice troll thread.
10/10
The truth is that if you disable auto pet special.
You already are in top 30 hunters cause most of them suck anyway regardless of being carried by silly class.
Come at me hunters.Throw forum arrows at me.
10/10
The truth is that if you disable auto pet special.
You already are in top 30 hunters cause most of them suck anyway regardless of being carried by silly class.
Come at me hunters.Throw forum arrows at me.