Hey I am in that thread :O
My gear is still 155...why do you keep claiming this is fixed?fixed
enjoy the ride imo. to each his own. f blizzGear opportunities like this come and go so frequently. The main issue is the inconsistency of Blizzard's hotfixes. If their nerfing was stalwartly consistent, I'd never think to farm those items, just let the streamers/Youtubers get their views from insane crits and 1shots and move on with our lives.
BFA had ilvl 180s, literally just had to kill a Rare NPC and it dropped unscaled loot. As simple as that. People who abused it had their items manually removed by GMs and some even had bans handed to them.
SL had exploited Artifacts, the ilvl 44 WOD Rares, and the epic love necklaces. The ilvl 44s got constantly nerfed, which frustratingly forced everyone to re-gear BiS every week at the beginning of SL. High ilvl Artifacts remained untouched and forgotten for the majority of the expansion. Epic Love Necklaces were untouched still to this day (albeit them being underpowered now compared to new pieces).
DF exploitation has become so ridiculous, you need to be part of secret societies to be in the know. Most active exploits since the launch of DF have not been hotfixed, and most likely won't be in the near future as it involves scaling. They'd need to detangle their whole spaghetti code responsible for scaling to fix them.
The FOMO is huge though because of how inconsistent Blizz's hotfixing is. What if this is here to stay forever, and its the new BiS, but they only fix the way of obtaining the items? Although it was not an exploit, think of Pre-Cata vs Post-Cata twinks in comparison. If you created a twink after the Shattering, you were already at a huge disadvantage from missing out of the OP/disproportionally high ilvl quest gear (Wingblade, Inferno Robes, Jutebraid Gloves, etc).
These items are really fun short term, but they have such a long lasting negative impact on the health of twink brackets. Severely bad publicity on WoW Forums, further perpetuating twink hatred (works against us for our fight to merge brackets like on Classic WOTLK and have active BGs), massive burnout/quitting after Blizz "nerfs items I farmed hundreds of instances for", or going back to dull statistics after having an OP twink.
Idk, call me biased but I'm truly fed up of needing to exploit to gear my twink on Retail. And ofc there's a new exploit almost every month that surfaces. I've said this multiple times before, twinking on Retail has become who can exploit the best. One of these days I'll catch a ban and won't even be surprised honestly. The amount of exploits I had to do to stay ahead of the curve over the past decade and a half on my 10 is just surreal.
Part of me wants to say shame on all of you who exploited to get that ridiculously OP 155 gear, but at the same time, the FOMO short-sightedness always takes the best of us.
Tl;Dr I'm getting too old for this shit, and I'm sad to see no one cares about the health/bettering of the twink reputation.
I agree all this shit is really bad for the game, but I don't blame the players who get it. It's 100% on blizz for screwing up so often and the inconsistent or extremely delayed fixes. Especially in pvp, as soon as one person gets some OP gear then everyone else has to get it or they might as well just quit the game.Gear opportunities like this come and go so frequently. The main issue is the inconsistency of Blizzard's hotfixes. If their nerfing was stalwartly consistent, I'd never think to farm those items, just let the streamers/Youtubers get their views from insane crits and 1shots and move on with our lives.
BFA had ilvl 180s, literally just had to kill a Rare NPC and it dropped unscaled loot. As simple as that. People who abused it had their items manually removed by GMs and some even had bans handed to them.
SL had exploited Artifacts, the ilvl 44 WOD Rares, and the epic love necklaces. The ilvl 44s got constantly nerfed, which frustratingly forced everyone to re-gear BiS every week at the beginning of SL. High ilvl Artifacts remained untouched and forgotten for the majority of the expansion. Epic Love Necklaces were untouched still to this day (albeit them being underpowered now compared to new pieces).
DF exploitation has become so ridiculous, you need to be part of secret societies to be in the know. Most active exploits since the launch of DF have not been hotfixed, and most likely won't be in the near future as it involves scaling. They'd need to detangle their whole spaghetti code responsible for scaling to fix them.
The FOMO is huge though because of how inconsistent Blizz's hotfixing is. What if this is here to stay forever, and its the new BiS, but they only fix the way of obtaining the items? Although it was not an exploit, think of Pre-Cata vs Post-Cata twinks in comparison. If you created a twink after the Shattering, you were already at a huge disadvantage from missing out of the OP/disproportionally high ilvl quest gear (Wingblade, Inferno Robes, Jutebraid Gloves, etc).
These items are really fun short term, but they have such a long lasting negative impact on the health of twink brackets. Severely bad publicity on WoW Forums, further perpetuating twink hatred (works against us for our fight to merge brackets like on Classic WOTLK and have active BGs), massive burnout/quitting after Blizz "nerfs items I farmed hundreds of instances for", or going back to dull statistics after having an OP twink.
Idk, call me biased but I'm truly fed up of needing to exploit to gear my twink on Retail. And ofc there's a new exploit almost every month that surfaces. I've said this multiple times before, twinking on Retail has become who can exploit the best. One of these days I'll catch a ban and won't even be surprised honestly. The amount of exploits I had to do to stay ahead of the curve over the past decade and a half on my 10 is just surreal.
Part of me wants to say shame on all of you who exploited to get that ridiculously OP 155 gear, but at the same time, the FOMO short-sightedness always takes the best of us.
Tl;Dr I'm getting too old for this shit, and I'm sad to see no one cares about the health/bettering of the twink reputation.
Yeah, thats why I am just not bothering this round. I put in so much effort in the past to stay bis and now its just gotten a bit over the top for me.I'm truly fed up of needing to exploit to gear my twink on Retail.
There are ppl out there that re trying, I try pretty hard to convince the average wow player that not all twinks are this way but its like swimming against the current lol.d I'm sad to see no one cares about the health/bettering of the twink reputation
Oddly enough, warforged WoD drops almost make things better. Without them, classes that can make use of the few epic dungeon drops would have a (probably) significant advantage since they beat blues by about 30 ilvls. Also dungeon quests possibly upgrading to epic would make every twink a lottery. Whether that would make PvP better or worse, I can not tell, no PvP for me.to be honest, imo, the epic upgrades in WOD is a blizz screw up too caused by adding M+ to older content. 59 @ 10, 87 @ 20, 112 @ 29., really is not right.
what amazes be is seeing a like 58 in a WOD run getting epic upgrades in the 200's
Slowly but surely, y'all are gonna fall prey to the whispers. Roleplay comes upon usGear opportunities like this come and go so frequently. The main issue is the inconsistency of Blizzard's hotfixes. If their nerfing was stalwartly consistent, I'd never think to farm those items, just let the streamers/Youtubers get their views from insane crits and 1shots and move on with our lives.
BFA had ilvl 180s, literally just had to kill a Rare NPC and it dropped unscaled loot. As simple as that. People who abused it had their items manually removed by GMs and some even had bans handed to them.
SL had exploited Artifacts, the ilvl 44 WOD Rares, and the epic love necklaces. The ilvl 44s got constantly nerfed, which frustratingly forced everyone to re-gear BiS every week at the beginning of SL. High ilvl Artifacts remained untouched and forgotten for the majority of the expansion. Epic Love Necklaces were untouched still to this day (albeit them being underpowered now compared to new pieces).
DF exploitation has become so ridiculous, you need to be part of secret societies to be in the know. Most active exploits since the launch of DF have not been hotfixed, and most likely won't be in the near future as it involves scaling. They'd need to detangle their whole spaghetti code responsible for scaling to fix them.
The FOMO is huge though because of how inconsistent Blizz's hotfixing is. What if this is here to stay forever, and its the new BiS, but they only fix the way of obtaining the items? Although it was not an exploit, think of Pre-Cata vs Post-Cata twinks in comparison. If you created a twink after the Shattering, you were already at a huge disadvantage from missing out of the OP/disproportionally high ilvl quest gear (Wingblade, Inferno Robes, Jutebraid Gloves, etc).
These items are really fun short term, but they have such a long lasting negative impact on the health of twink brackets. Severely bad publicity on WoW Forums, further perpetuating twink hatred (works against us for our fight to merge brackets like on Classic WOTLK and have active BGs), massive burnout/quitting after Blizz "nerfs items I farmed hundreds of instances for", or going back to dull statistics after having an OP twink.
Idk, call me biased but I'm truly fed up of needing to exploit to gear my twink on Retail. And ofc there's a new exploit almost every month that surfaces. I've said this multiple times before, twinking on Retail has become who can exploit the best. One of these days I'll catch a ban and won't even be surprised honestly. The amount of exploits I had to do to stay ahead of the curve over the past decade and a half on my 10 is just surreal.
Part of me wants to say shame on all of you who exploited to get that ridiculously OP 155 gear, but at the same time, the FOMO short-sightedness always takes the best of us.
Tl;Dr I'm getting too old for this shit, and I'm sad to see no one cares about the health/bettering of the twink reputation.
this is why a lot of us stopped lol I'd like to see some 20vs29 action with these though... Classic holding my whole attention though currently155?? Omg. Trying to keep up to date with Blizzard's fuck-ups feels like a full time job at this point.