Christ this thread is moving fast lol.
Donteventrii said:
Having played with and against both groups, as well as DetoX, for over two years, I can say that yes your group is entirely more skilled than the median 29 skill level.
What makes any particular group or guild of players good is how well they play as a team. My point here is that you can't really have "played" against our group before because it only just recently came into existence (few months ago). MB is nothing more than a collection of random 39s from different guilds and servers that – following 39s recent demise – decided to guild up and try 19s... and now 29s.
Give me a break. I have extended experience playing with both groups to know their capability. MB's dwarfs median 29 skill.
I think it is you who should be giving US a break. “Extended experience� Having been active at 39s far longer than yourself, how is it that you are so familiar with all of MB’s players when even I’m not? We are not Detox. Detox was a static guild that had the same group of CORE players for quite a few years. Stop making categorical claims and comparisons about our almighty skill level.
As I said above, MB is nothing more than a collection of random 39s from different guilds and servers that – following 39s recent demise – decided to guild up and try 19s... and now 29s. Yes, I feel we are all competent players.
Donteventrii said:
Couple parts to this. Why not roll both sides right off the bat instead of concentrating 39 talen on Alliance 29 side? Knowing it has the potential to upset faction balance, it seems like this is the most logical choice.
1. We are a group of players who wish to play together.
2. We wish to test our mettle against the current 29s.
3. We don’t truly know how the faction balance will play out until we actually start BG’ing. Potential is just that, potential.
Based on the above, the most “logical†choice for us was to make same faction toons together as a guild, and have fun throughout. I don’t think we are evil or selfish for having done so either.
Donteventrii said:
What is considered finished? AGM? If so it will take all of your guild a long time before you consider rolling on Hordeside.
Finished means getting all of the basic gear for each slot, getting that gear enchanted, and having maxed professions. I will agree that AGM, DMH, and Charged gears may or may not fall out of that purview for some players.
Donteventrii said:
So you will only consider rolling Horde if the bracket is "truly enjoyed". But what would make it more enjoyable than setting up to be balanced on both sides right off the bat? It's Catch 22 logic.
If the only competition to be had in a bracket is by playing ourselves, is that bracket truly enjoyable or worth it? I would answer “possibly†to that question.
If the bracket mechanics themselves are fun and enjoyable, then yes. If they are not fun, then no. However, I believe you are incorrect when you create the impression that the only competition we’ll get is from ourselves.
We’re going to have to play a bit more to get a definitive answer to the above question. Speaking for myself, I can almost guarantee I’ll be making a Horde twink in the future.
My expectations? Like what? Focus macros? Assist macros? Constant camera movement? Calling out CC/Silence/Focus? Scroll clicking? These aren't complex strats for 85 arena. Before you dunk, you need to learn how to dribble.
It is not so much your expectations. It’s how you come across while stating them. You come across as elitist and arrogant and I don’t think you’ll deny that. Who wants to play with God’s gift to mankind if God’s gift to mankind is constantly and consistently telling you how he is God’s gift to mankind and you aren’t. Just because some people endure your tirades and manage to find some tidbit of constructive criticism buried deep within, doesn’t mean it is acceptable or the right way to go about it.
Your above expectations are realistic, but only to a certain degree. There is a large difference between utilizing the aforementioned tools effectively and not utilizing them effectively. THAT is usually the difference between a great player and your regular PVP’er. Sure, I use the tools you mention above... but not with perfect coordination and not without mistakes. Sometimes I miss the focus cc, sometimes I hit the wrong button, sometimes I break a sheep, sometimes I don’t see the ret pally coming up behind me, for whatever reason. So obviously, myself and quite a few others aren’t as good as you.
I don’t want to knock on your analogy, but one can easily dunk before one learns to dribble. Height and/or hops is all you need. Lol.
by funny i do mean lmao.
