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confirmed can be epic

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/4446

@DetErMegJostein

The item can be epic. We still don't know if it actually can drop at level 19. I'm also not that items that can be epic have a chance to upgrade when coming from lockboxes (perhaps someone who has been opening lockboxes has seen that?).
 
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It’s not a lockbox, but it’s an upgrade from a container

The item can be epic. We still don't know if it actually can drop at level 19. I'm also not that items that can be epic have a chance to upgrade when coming from lockboxes (perhaps someone who has been opening lockboxes has seen that?).
 
Well as far as i've seen theres no reason it cant go epic as it scales, seems that items that scales work the same way. considering it has a chance to drop Talon of Vultros scaled version i don't see a reason it wouldn't be able to drop an epic BVB.
[doublepost=1561393388,1561392412][/doublepost]Also from the data i've collected after over 100k boxes. the rings patterns and necks and stuff doesen't scale. however dungeon specific drops scale. but not below the Dungeonspecific level. as in Doomspike stayed at 20. same with evocator's Demon Band stayed at 19 as it used to. Talon of Vultros and Assasin's blade scaled to 19.
 
Well as far as i've seen theres no reason it cant go epic as it scales, seems that items that scales work the same way. considering it has a chance to drop Talon of Vultros scaled version i don't see a reason it wouldn't be able to drop an epic BVB.
[doublepost=1561393388,1561392412][/doublepost]Also from the data i've collected after over 100k boxes. the rings patterns and necks and stuff doesen't scale. however dungeon specific drops scale. but not below the Dungeonspecific level. as in Doomspike stayed at 20. same with evocator's Demon Band stayed at 19 as it used to. Talon of Vultros and Assasin's blade scaled to 19.

Sooo, then BVB will scale to 20 even if looted on a 19 with that logic? With duskwood being a 20-60 zone?
 
Bvb originally dropped in redridge

Well then that’s good news. I was under the impression it only had ever dropped from those lock boxes in duskwood. I guess that’s just deemed a good spot to farm them. Cool beans
 
Any point in doing this hunt? I mean you're already at 3400 boxes and haven't even seen 1 drop. When it does drop you have another small as hell chance for it to proc epic. A blue BvB would be worthless when you can farm slicer blade/talon much easier and with much better results.
 
Any point in doing this hunt? I mean you're already at 3400 boxes and haven't even seen 1 drop. When it does drop you have another small as hell chance for it to proc epic. A blue BvB would be worthless when you can farm slicer blade/talon much easier and with much better results.
the ultimate swag dagger for lvl 19/20? worthless? bruh!
 
I had a GM confirm for me that it CAN drop.

GMs are not good sources of knowledge and have been outright wrong in many cases. The average GM probably has less knowledge about the intricate drop mechanics than many of our forum members.
 
GMs are not good sources of knowledge and have been outright wrong in many cases. The average GM probably has less knowledge about the intricate drop mechanics than many of our forum members.
Been twinking since vanilla so that's no news to me. I had to GM add and remove BvBs until one proccd to prove it to him. They can proc epic 100%
 
Been twinking since vanilla so that's no news to me. I had to GM add and remove BvBs until one proccd to prove it to him. They can proc epic 100%
My thoughts/concerns about this:

The question is, is it possible for an item in a lockbox to roll epic? the quest item contained in the bag did, but again that were a quest item.
As this item have dropped from mobs before, and may have been the only way for it to roll epic, and would put it in a similar situation as Black widow band which also got the possibility to roll epic, except its gfd (along with many more gfd items)

So if you asked a GM to add and remove a Black widow band it would probably proc epic as well, it would only prove a GM could proc it 100% but for us players it would still be gfd. Unless you could get a GM to open ∞ amount lockboxes and proc it that way, then I dont see how a GM's info is helpful unfortunately.
 
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The only issue I have with your argument is that your comparing an item that is unobtainable and one the we 100% know drops currently.
 

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