~ Huge Changes! Tearing open Twinking! ~

[Llare]

what are holy paladins/ret paladins/prot paladins getting?

Ret gets Crusader Strike and Divine Storm

Holy gets Seal of Light and FoL.. but lose HoF, BoP and BoW



I hope this doesn't go live.

 

[CIHC]

Im waiting till Cata, until then I have a level 10 rogue on stand by.

 

[Quelfep]

Im waiting till Cata, until then I have a level 10 rogue on stand by.

you are a douchebag

 

[CIHC]

you are a douchebag

and why haven't you been banned yet?

 

[Supadrood]

because no one cares.

 

[Quelfep]

and why haven't you been banned yet?

umad .

 

[Orcgasm]

Possibly UA/SL/Conflag at 19?

 

[Twinkin]

Possibly UA/SL/Conflag at 19?

That's seems to fit exactly in with what they are doing to other classes, but I think you mean at 10*.

 

[Conrose]

Arms - Mastery bonus in Cataclysm

Mastery still exists, but the design is a little cleaner.



Before:

Arms got some passive damage per talent point.

Arms got some passive armor pen per talent point.

Arms got a chance to proc a swing per talent point, which is enhanced by mastery rating on gear.



Now:

Arms gets whatever it needs as passives at level 10.

Arms gets a chance to proc a swing at level 78(ish), which is enhanced by mastery rating on gear.

If I'm reading this correctly, then it means that we won't have to worry about how the third masteries will factor into Twinking until lvl 78.

 

[Twinkin]

If I'm reading this correctly, then it means that we won't have to worry about how the third masteries will factor into Twinking until lvl 78.

I agree but I think it will be 2nd mastery and the last, there is no third unless you are referring to the [Before:]

 

[Rivfader]

They said forget about the passive masteries they listed before, only the 3rd one will carry over (meditation and vengance being the exceptions) and the 3rd one wont be available until level 78. So dont think about eclipse, arms' extra weapon attack, etc.

 

[Conrose]

I agree but I think it will be 2nd mastery and the last, there is no third unless you are referring to the [Before:]

Yeah, I'm referring to the Third Masteries of the "Before".



A Protection Warrior and Paladin sounds potentially dangerous now that they are recieving full vengeance benefits + instant strikes (The warrior moreso since it sounds like Heroic Strike will not have a cooldown vs Crusader Strike).

 

[Twinkin]

Yeah, I'm referring to the Third Masteries of the "Before".



A Protection Warrior and Paladin sounds potentially dangerous now that they are recieving full vengeance benefits + instant strikes (The warrior moreso since it sounds like Heroic Strike will not have a cooldown vs Crusader Strike).

Although Rets get Divine Storm so it will be appealing to find how it unfolds in Cataclysm.

 

[Rivfader]

DS is getting changed in the same way WW is, more of an AoE than a single-target attack. I would expect MS to keep it's current CD.

 

[Trespasser]

[Mind Flay and Shadowform @LVL1x for Shadow

We really wanted to do this, but the more we thought about it, what does a level 10 Shadowform do? Spam Shadow Word: Pain? We'll probably give Shadow priests Mind Flay at level 10 and let them get Shadowform shortly after that.

It seems like shadow priests aren't only getting mind flay but will also have shadowform available to them at lvl 19.

 

[Twinkzruz]

Sucks they wont let you multi-spec before you fill the tree. If the strongest abilities are in the first level, then people could just spent three talent points in each tree and be pro.

 

[Rivfader]

They're making it so the strongest abilites wont be in the first teir though I'd assume

 

[Twinkzruz]

I think they are, so leveling is even easier. Blizzard is trying to simplify a focus and click game. Sucks, i want something chalenging.

 

[Twinkin]

1. Spriest aren't getting Shadowform at 10. And I doubt they'll get it between 11-19, then again, you never know what Blizzard is thinking. =P.

2. Not all classes are getting their strongest abilities when they choose there specialization, actually most classes are getting the Burning Crusade end talent at level 10.

3. I beleive that WoW can be challenging if you make it. If you look at every aspect and think through different ways you could play and improve, idk, that's just what I think.

Hope this helped.=]

 

[Quelfep]

I think they are, so leveling is even easier. Blizzard is trying to simplify a focus and click game. Sucks, i want something chalenging.

leveling is hard