How to Keep the Bracket From Crashing

The GY Farming is the biggest problem. Theres no way to fix it though. Disrespectful assclowns wil always be disrespectful assclowns and treat other players poorly. Id rather log onto my lvl 10 and dance on a fence post in Goldshire for hours on end then get repeatedly farmed at the GY by the same griefing pricks over and over.
 
bracket will keep dying until MoP imo then everyone will roll the fotm and it will rise for a few months then die again.. ever since 3.3 this brackets been a dying breed... it can rise again though, just need the right poeple to put together some decent guilds and set the standard... not saying that Pizza's strategy isnt good, its just no other guilds are up to that standard to compete with the GY camping... just needs organization





p.s. didnt read any post in between the beginning and this


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Bracket is currently poisoned by:

- Hunter stacking
- 5/10 man group queueing
- GY farming
- Undergeared players

And the sad thing is, even some of the most prevalent players aren't going to give second thought to something such as GY farming. They're going to continuously do it just because they can. I think this thread is a good idea, but I have a feel it's going to fall on a few deaf ears.
 
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hunter stacking is not the only stacking going on, you need to experience healer stacking,

1 hunter with 3 holy paladins and 2 disc-priests destroys a 5 hunter 1 priest comp.....rest of team don't really matter

5 hunters can't out DPS all those heals/hots/absorbtion and one preist no mater wtf-spec can keep them all up

ran into a WT premade GY farm, 3 hunters, 4 holy paladins, 3 priests h/d. too many look at just damage
 
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hunter stacking is not the only stacking going on, you need to experience healer stacking,

1 hunter with 3 holy paladins and 2 disc-priests destroys a 5 hunter 1 priest comp.....rest of team don't really matter

5 hunters can't out DPS all those heals/hots/absorbtion and one preist no mater wtf-spec can keep them all up

ran into a WT premade GY farm, 3 hunters, 4 holy paladins, 3 priests h/d. too many look at just damage
pretty sure 5 hunters can insta gib any healer idc how many healers there are.
 
hunter stacking is not the only stacking going on, you need to experience healer stacking,

1 hunter with 3 holy paladins and 2 disc-priests destroys a 5 hunter 1 priest comp.....rest of team don't really matter

5 hunters can't out DPS all those heals/hots/absorbtion and one preist no mater wtf-spec can keep them all up

ran into a WT premade GY farm, 3 hunters, 4 holy paladins, 3 priests h/d. too many look at just damage

The hunts and priest would win.
 
What are you talking about? I don't really understand the second part of your post ( I don't really understand the first part either). You're saying that some no name for some reason saying you have bad gear makes you want to not play your toon. If you are comfortable with your gear then who cares? If you feel it is BiS for min/maxing then...who cares.

The first part of what I said applies to the current state of the bracket - there are more people who simply don't want to play than there are that do. The ones that do are the typical scrubby pug who probably needs to work on their toon more before queuing up, combined with the players that simply refuse to play 19s unless they can get into some sort of group queuing with guildies/friends.

It's the latter people who are behaving in a detrimental way to the bracket. No, it's not going to stop, and no, the bracket isn't going to 'get better.'

The second part of what I said is in reference to the attitude of these players. 'I'm going to attack your gear as a way to make you feel bad about playing in this bracket and taking up a slot on our team, preventing more of my friends and guildies from getting into this game because it's not good enough that we are already graveyard camping the other team 24/7.'

I don't suspect that people realize there are wargames that they can play across server with anyone on their Real ID if they just want to play only with friends and group queue all day. You don't need to group queue into pugs, that's not the only option available, it's not even the best option. The whole situation is just silly and nonsensical. It's going to be interesting to see what these people say on the forums in a few months when 19s stop altogether.
 
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Take the time to mentor players and get them ready while having fun. Aka recruiting and team play. Use Rbgs as a way to find players that love to pvp and introduce low level pvp to them also. Flocking to the next best "guild , server, faction" wont fix it long term.
 
hunter stacking is not the only stacking going on, you need to experience healer stacking,

1 hunter with 3 holy paladins and 2 disc-priests destroys a 5 hunter 1 priest comp.....rest of team don't really matter

5 hunters can't out DPS all those heals/hots/absorbtion and one preist no mater wtf-spec can keep them all up

5 hunts drop the 1 other hunter in less than a second and then heals oom ... 5 hunts 1 priest wins
 
I havent been able to sit down and read the posts as of late and Im noticing a steady stream of the same replies. Its just not gonna happen cause not everyone will stop. Ok this is how I see it. Lead bye example. Start trying, If GY camping happens dont rez. they cant farm if you dont rez. Ive counted multipul people that think this is a problem and want this to stop but I still dont see anyone doing anything about it ingame. Theres people who say they want the bracket better, but alot of people are talking the talk but not walking the walk. lets see how it goes if people take "the Walk" to actually make this bracket better.
 
With the more recent occurrences I would encourage you all to not take this thread lightly. Things just need to take a turn for the greater good of the community since all of us are what makes this bracket and sometimes we can also be what hurts the bracket.
Please reconsider your priorities so we can all just have fun again.

Cheers
~~Danny~~
 
Awesome post Mocha! If i could add my two cents to the matter of helping the bracket.... When you join a game and you see players that are under geared, many of us find ourselves bagging on the players, telling then they are "awful", or even attempting to remove them from the game. This needs to stop! Twink Info is here for a reason, to help new players in the bracket figure out how they can better their gear, strategies, and game play. When i see under geared players in games, rather than taking the easy/lazy way out off telling a player that they are not worthy of playing on the team, I direct them to Twinkinfo.com suggesting them to leave the game (politely) to help better their understanding of their class and the bracket.

At this point and time, Not many of the older players are coming back for Cataclysm, Let's face it, It is up to us to have a positive impact on the new players interested in joining our bracket and becoming the new generation of twinks :)
 
Awesome post Mocha! If i could add my two cents to the matter of helping the bracket.... When you join a game and you see players that are under geared, many of us find ourselves bagging on the players, telling then they are "awful", or even attempting to remove them from the game. This needs to stop! Twink Info is here for a reason, to help new players in the bracket figure out how they can better their gear, strategies, and game play. When i see under geared players in games, rather than taking the easy/lazy way out off telling a player that they are not worthy of playing on the team, I direct them to Twinkinfo.com suggesting them to leave the game (politely) to help better their understanding of their class and the bracket.

At this point and time, Not many of the older players are coming back for Cataclysm, Let's face it, It is up to us to have a positive impact on the new players interested in joining our bracket and becoming the new generation of twinks :)

And you are telling me that this actually works.
 
And you are telling me that this actually works.
I have had a good amount of success with this, Obviously not every person i suggest does this but i have had many players with good attitudes say "thanks for the help" and leave the game to go to twinkinfo.com. I actually ran into a situation just last night where i had a rogue with a great attitude in the game, and he just was not on the right track with his gear, but i suggested twinkinfo.com and he was very appreciative for the help. So back to your post, Yes this actually works, Just takes a little more effort than just telling the player they are "awful" :p
 

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