Highest skillcap on classes @ F2P
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Mialo
The Architect.
Gotcha. LFM.
Imirak
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FIrst of all, I don't hate arenas. Who said that? All I have said is that they are different environments and the skill sets needed to succeed are different.
You don't see me posting polls in here around how terrible arenas are, like some people. If you like arena, more power to you
That is just your personal opinion, which is fine. But I find arenas boring and formulaic. In a BG you have no idea of the quality of your team or opponent, meaning that every game could turn out quite differently.
Why is it that every arena player in this thread is long on insults but short on actual discussion about the topic at hand?
Literally, I heard "roots are bad" and "ferals should turret" and since then it's been nothing but ad hominems and appeals to authority rather than any actual discussion about the validity of those assertions.
Is it because you have no argument beyond the blanket assertions that "arenas are more competitive, therefore arena players are better. Since I am an arena player, I am right"
No, they don't. But talented players coordinating in a BG will succeed simply because they are talented and coordinating. If an arena feral wants to turret in a BG with his pocket healer and other geared arena buddies, then he is naturally going to succeed and, in his mind, validate his arena style. But that is more of a function of his team's coordination rather than his ability to fully utilize his class.
Yes, we get it. You got bored of BGs and moved on. But you know what? Not everyone is you. Some people find the unpredictability of BGs more interesting.. You are free to have a different personal preference.
I'm not exactly sure how that makes me an "arena-hater", but I'm not seeing a lot of rational posts on this topic beyond a brief discussion on paladin healing which ended with *gasp* an acknowledgement that maybe some talents are more suited for BGs than arenas. Imagine that!
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C O T U S
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damn that is a whole lot of bullshit in one place. i'm trying hard to find something that you said that's actually true.....no luck so far
highlights include:
-repeatedly claiming that he doesn't hate arenas, but calls them "boring and formulaic"
-getting angry that goldendays pointed out that ferals should be turreting and that roots is pretty garbage, as if these statements are actually incorrect
-claims that arenas are not more competitive or balanced than BGs. are you seriously making this claim....? not sure if srs....or if you know what the words "competitive" and "balanced" actually mean
we can easily empirically test your claims that arena players are not better than BG players at BGs: come up with your best possible 10 man WSG team, and i'll come up with 10 arena players, and we will beat you 10/10 WSG games, and beat you badly.
let me know when you have your 10 - i already have my 10 in mind
highlights include:
-repeatedly claiming that he doesn't hate arenas, but calls them "boring and formulaic"
-getting angry that goldendays pointed out that ferals should be turreting and that roots is pretty garbage, as if these statements are actually incorrect
-claims that arenas are not more competitive or balanced than BGs. are you seriously making this claim....? not sure if srs....or if you know what the words "competitive" and "balanced" actually mean
we can easily empirically test your claims that arena players are not better than BG players at BGs: come up with your best possible 10 man WSG team, and i'll come up with 10 arena players, and we will beat you 10/10 WSG games, and beat you badly.
let me know when you have your 10 - i already have my 10 in mind
Wizkidone
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Arenas require a much more heightened and honed awareness to pvp situations overall. Arena players predict, counter, and react to differing pvp situations much faster than bg players. People who arena constantly are simply going to have much more of that awareness and reaction time then someone who simply does bgs. There's a reason arena players are all at the very top of the RBG ladder lol.
^^^^^ truth
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Shft
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Roots are not "bad" i would say, just not worth casting in a bg way more often than not. As a druid, the time you spent casting those roots on a hunter for your warrior or those roots on a rogue for your priest is simply the loss of time you NEED to spend proactively healing your whole team to succeed as a druid mid healer.
As an FC druid, if you're casting roots you're doing it wrong.
As a feral, I don't really see the use of roots in any situation but a duel. Drawing out a fight to heal yourself or something like that is only gonna get you killed by a passing hunter.
The only time worth casting roots is possibly on mounted players chasing your fc imo. Even then it's very situational because once again that is time spent not healing
As an FC druid, if you're casting roots you're doing it wrong.
As a feral, I don't really see the use of roots in any situation but a duel. Drawing out a fight to heal yourself or something like that is only gonna get you killed by a passing hunter.
The only time worth casting roots is possibly on mounted players chasing your fc imo. Even then it's very situational because once again that is time spent not healing
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Mialo
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Do tell so I can /like for approval.
C O T U S
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i mean seriously, go ahead. you make the rules. you dictate the class restrictions, consumable restrictions (but no swift pots please), etc. since you're a "Battleground Player", you must know more about BGs than us "Arena Players", so we will leave it to you to make the matchup as "balanced" as possible.
i'll honestly be impressed if you can actually come up with a full 10 man team of "Battleground Players", so don't think that i'll be looking down on you after we 3-cap you in less than 10 minutes repeatedly until people just start quitting out of boredom.
i'll honestly be impressed if you can actually come up with a full 10 man team of "Battleground Players", so don't think that i'll be looking down on you after we 3-cap you in less than 10 minutes repeatedly until people just start quitting out of boredom.
zaxxo1
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Hey guys, you're never gonna guess what...this topic is not about battlegrounds, or even arenas 
. Betcha didn't see that coming did you? Uh huh, thats right, some people might have clicked on this thread to find out about people opinion on class skillcaps . Crazy as it may seem, not every thread needs to head in this direction. So please please please please please use this thread, or this one, or even create a new one for this argument, so people don't have to sift through tons of waffle to get some nice information. And my last plead for this place, is that no matter how angry and vexated you feel, you keep the insults and bad language down. I appreciate you might be older, but remember that we do have younger players on here (myself being 13 years old), and insults only creating an evil self-fulfilling cycle of hatred and frustration.
~Zaxxo
. Betcha didn't see that coming did you? Uh huh, thats right, some people might have clicked on this thread to find out about people opinion on class skillcaps . Crazy as it may seem, not every thread needs to head in this direction. So please please please please please use this thread, or this one, or even create a new one for this argument, so people don't have to sift through tons of waffle to get some nice information. And my last plead for this place, is that no matter how angry and vexated you feel, you keep the insults and bad language down. I appreciate you might be older, but remember that we do have younger players on here (myself being 13 years old), and insults only creating an evil self-fulfilling cycle of hatred and frustration.~Zaxxo
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Mialo
The Architect.
People really got to learn people. 50% of the bullshit not about the OP is trolling in hopes to stir things up.Inflated egos cockfighting over WoW (which is serious business). Never seen this before
Imirak
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Roots are a great peel for melee off of your fc. Rooting the enemy healer while their group is advancing the either will either delay the group or separate the healer. Rooting an enemy hunter almost completely negates their primary class advantage in midfield. Rooting an enemy efc that you cannot solo is a way to prevent him from rejoining his team in midfield before more defense arrives.
There are lots of legitimate reasons to cast roots in a BG, imo.
A root peel off of your healer is many times more effective than feral heals, imo.
Well, true.
I appreciate the 'imo'. Although I've never used roots as an fc (like you suggest, it doesn't really make sense), it is a very useful snare otherwise. It is situational, of course, like most utilities, but those situations arise at least 2-3 times every BG.
Feral heals are really weak in a BG environment. Most have to be cast while moving, restricting you to Rejuv, and they often reset the combat timer for restealthing.
Imirak
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What is it with you and reading comprehension. Did you two have a falling out or something?
allahkazam
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the elitism for arenas is outstanding in this bracket. the community is going the way of this bracket too.
coolio
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pretty sure one to two people dont represent the opinions or attitudes of everyone else
allahkazam
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i apologize for overreacting but i'm so sick of petty squabbling here.
KainUFC
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Fucking INSANE IDEA, dont read the forums?
C O T U S
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seriously, the forums are for trolling, nothing else. you wanna talk WoW or life, join the skype chat, or better yet just log into the game and start playing.
and i feel no remorse at all for calling out somebody who runs his mouth on and on and then won't even respond to any of us asking him to step up and play and back himself up. i'd be clowning on someone just as bad who was an arena player and wouldn't do arenas against other people he/she knew he/she would lose against.
and i feel no remorse at all for calling out somebody who runs his mouth on and on and then won't even respond to any of us asking him to step up and play and back himself up. i'd be clowning on someone just as bad who was an arena player and wouldn't do arenas against other people he/she knew he/she would lose against.
Imirak
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Thank you... I will enjoy my battlegrounds where, as a druid, I might have to play mid, kill the efc or carry the flag based upon the composition of my team and opponents along with the ebb and flow of the match, while hotting everyone in range that's not at 100%. Exciting and unpredictable!
I appreciate the kind sentiments and will pass them along to my teammates, who will not be botting.
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