Growing and protecting and growing the 20-24 bracket

This bracket will survive as long as F2P are capped at 20. I think the 24's will come and go. I've been playing in this bracket since Decembrer and I rarely do more than 5 bgs a week now in this bracket.
 
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u do realize that you are trying to talk reason into one of the most mongoloid communities in low level pvp right?

90% of these kids rolled their 24 hunters to pwn noobs like they did back in BC because that's what true twinking is (rofl)





Trying to be rational with the irrational is insanity.
 
u do realize that you are trying to talk reason into one of the most mongoloid communities in low level pvp right?

90% of these kids rolled their 24 hunters to pwn noobs like they did back in BC because that's what true twinking is (rofl)

Trying to be rational with the irrational is insanity.

What I realize is that you are painting with a broad brush. While there are irrational immature fails running around so are many others. We must be that voice of reason or in our complacency we are condoning it.
 
So sad that the level of trolls have went downhill over the years. You can't be so obvious. You have to let people embrace you and have them lower their defenses and then you slowly make them turn into a nerd raging volcano over time. You are just bad at it, but good at being annoying.
 
Omg metro do you remember when we went to Vegas for that bachlor party and lost our friend Doug , then to find him on the roof. Crazy times man .
 
You know what I think? You sure did spend a lot of time writing that...I'm sure it will back an impact on the bracket.

I just find it funny that you think someday these warsongs will be competitive in an environment with 24s and 20s without the typical AFK's/farming etc. Happens everywhere, for years, doesn't change. Do arenas if you wan't fun, competitive, balanced as possible games. Maybe then you will get the opposing team to "step up", as they will most likely be all 24s as well :D
 
Ever hear of groups queuing against each other in what is called a "premade". I find it funny that you think you know what I think and how long it takes me to write. What I do think is that many players saw what we created in the Whirlwind Battlegroup. It went like this...first they said it could not be done. Then they said we were fools for trying. Lastly they missed it when it was gone as it was self evident. i.e. Man can't fly and the earth is the center of the universe...

But thanks for your 2 cents. I had never heard that before. :p
 
haha i ain't gona write you a paragraph or an essay. I'll tell you this u better keep queing with a 5 man cause if you don't. you will see me in a game and i will farm haha wether you like it or not. mister 20k hk oh thats an achievement for you? try 25k? lol people like you should just stay in dungeons "gearing" for a lvl 20 bracket.
 
Personally, I don't like rolling weak opponents so we find things to keep it fun as we are looking for better teams...such as how fast can we end this thing so we can find a better team?

You seem like an intelligent and rational person, and I agree with the sentiment of the OP. Unfortunately lvl 20's will always be weak relative to 24's and you will always roll them. Even a geared and skilled 20. Period. If you hate playing underpowered opponents so much you shouldn't have rolled a 24. That's just shooting yourself in the foot.
 
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Personally, I don't like rolling weak opponents so we find things to keep it fun as we are looking for better teams...such as how fast can we end this thing so we can find a better team?
If you find the competition lacking in the 20-24 bracket, have you tried the 25-29 bracket? No matter what, unless you get a 10vs10 scheduled on your own, you'll always have a ton of 20's in your groups/BG's.
 
You seem like an intelligent and rational person, and I agree with the sentiment of the OP. Unfortunately lvl 20's will always be weak relative to 24's and you will always roll them. Even a geared and skilled 20. Period. If you hate playing underpowered opponents so much you shouldn't have rolled a 24. That's just shooting yourself in the foot.

If you find the competition lacking in the 20-24 bracket, have you tried the 25-29 bracket? No matter what, unless you get a 10vs10 scheduled on your own, you'll always have a ton of 20's in your groups/BG's.

The reason? Easy, pops. Props to the 20's for building up the traffic. Besides that, there is little "quit" in them. Unlike some of the epeening 24's they give their very best, even in defeat. The fact is a flood of 24s are coming. Like it or not that is going to happen and is already evident. We find plenty of 24s as opponents. Yesterday a few of our guys ran into HB's crew of 7 level 24 hunters. As for teammates I have no problem with a 20 for the sake of their being 20. Same goes for a 24...I do not prefer one to a 20 based on level alone.

As for other brackets, yes. I have twinks in many brackets. 10-14 does not pop much and when they do are dominated by priests. 15-19 is slowing the result of rolls one way or the other with rampant AFK'ing, gy camping. 25-29 do not pop consistently either. 30-34 do not pop. 35-39 pop on a limited schedule. I will not go north of that as it takes too long to level and gear a toon for a brand new player. Face it, the 20-24 bracket is 24/7 active, filled with players who play with pride. Do no kid yourself either, few will opt to do less in a xp off bracket where gear and levels are concerned. I for one am not going to crimp myself so that 24s can roll me most of the time.
 
The reason? Easy, pops. .
This is the reason you play this bracket, not the reason you chose to xp-off at 24 rather than 20.

I for one am not going to crimp myself so that 24s can roll me most of the time.
This is the reason. You consciously made a decision to play a character who facerolls 85% of this bracket in order to avoid getting facerolled by 15% of this bracket. Put another way, you decided to make the game a little less enjoyable for the large majority of us to protect yourself against the minority of players.

This is of course entirely your prerogative, and I'm not saying it's a trivial decision. Different people will weigh the pros and cons and come up with different conclusions. I'm just saying lets not sugar coat it. I believe your point regarding the upward trend in 24's doesn't apply as you could have started with a 20 twink and then leveled him up if the balance did indeed shift dramatically.
 
Ever hear of groups queuing against each other in what is called a "premade". I find it funny that you think you know what I think and how long it takes me to write. What I do think is that many players saw what we created in the Whirlwind Battlegroup. It went like this...first they said it could not be done. Then they said we were fools for trying. Lastly they missed it when it was gone as it was self evident. i.e. Man can't fly and the earth is the center of the universe...

But thanks for your 2 cents. I had never heard that before. :p

Sigh...Im out.
 
It's Monday , I miss the long articles in this post.

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This is the reason you play this bracket, not the reason you chose to xp-off at 24 rather than 20.


This is the reason. You consciously made a decision to play a character who facerolls 85% of this bracket in order to avoid getting facerolled by 15% of this bracket. Put another way, you decided to make the game a little less enjoyable for the large majority of us to protect yourself against the minority of players.

This is of course entirely your prerogative, and I'm not saying it's a trivial decision. Different people will weigh the pros and cons and come up with different conclusions. I'm just saying lets not sugar coat it. I believe your point regarding the upward trend in 24's doesn't apply as you could have started with a 20 twink and then leveled him up if the balance did indeed shift dramatically.

Half full, half empty. You seem pretty committed to your opinion. Not looking to argue. I disagree with your assessment for a myriad of reasons. The biggest is the assumption that there is a bracket at any level that does not have the same or worse ratios. Pops are why those that run with me are here, like it or not, believe it or not. I have a strong moral center and can't be moved off the ball without good reason. Spin it however you like in an attempt to stop it but your words are in vain. My take on your go at a counter point is you are seriously reaching for something to stop what you think can be stopped and it most likely stems from an unrealistic perspective of the world around you. Reality is that a great influx of 24s are coming, all with different intentions. Lump them all together, spin their intentions, promote the vain idea that they all are a bunch of pansies looking to mow grass with machine guns, etc. Heard it before and expect to again.

The romantic ideal that the majority of players will by choice crimp themselves is not born out by history. The time you had is gone. Be warned, change is the one constant in life and change is upon you yet again. I don't have to like it to report it. It is just the way it is...adapt.
 
I could never play a 24 because of my OCD. The number 4 irritates me so much.

Drink more rum. It shaves a number off the level from what I hear.
 

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